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| # Posted 2007-08-28 15:19:05 | |
| Charlie: | It's been a while, but I recall drilling through the nail to be helpful at reducing the pain, but not necessarily helpful in keeping the nail. I hope it won't affect your swing! |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 15:28:37 | |
| BorisGr: | Why are you people all up at 5 in the morning??!! |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 17:13:44 | |
| jjcote: | I lost a big toemail last night. Like the last time this happened, it managed to stay put until there was a fully-formed (albeit somewhat misshapen) nail in place underneath it. The weird thing is that I have no idea what the traumatic experience was that brought this about. |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 17:36:39 | |
| barb: | DMC? |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 17:42:04 | |
| Sandy: | I think if there is enough pressure under the nail to cause discomfort it's more than likely that there is a big enough blister that the nail has been separated from the skin and you're unlikely to save it in the long run. I always drill a hole. I sometimes have to re-open the hole for several days as it gets clogged, but it relieves the pressure and pain big time. I'm about to lose my big toe nail from the CNYO rogaine. It's loose everywhere but one corner. |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 17:57:03 | |
| PG: | Just to avoid being really stupid, help me here -- I'm assuming "drill" is being used figuratively, and that I'm not supposed to get out the power drill and have at it? Is this where the red-hot needle comes in?
Actually, think I found a reasonable answer. |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 18:01:00 | |
| kissy: | No, this must be some kind of hoax posting because you are *definitely* supposed to use a power drill. The bigger, the better. |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 19:23:50 | |
| ebuckley: | What's so bad about losing a nail? I lose about 1 a month. I currently have 6 nails in more or less working order (whatever that is - I don't know what toenails are actually supposed to do aside from turn black and fall out), 2 completely gone, and two that are about half way grown back. |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 19:39:41 | |
| Cristina: | Toenails are completely optional. |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 20:13:05 | |
| jjcote: | And if you don't like 'em black, there's always nail polish. |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 20:21:42 | |
| Sandy: | I "drill". I have a big needle that if I twist back and forth gouges out a hole. I used to use the end of a very small pen knife until someone gave me the needle . I clean the needle with rubbing alcohol. I would be too freaked to use something that was red hot and melted my nail and when I used a flame to sterilize things they get black so I don't do that either. But lots of people do the hot paper clip bit. |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 21:23:33 | |
| Yukon King: | aaaaahhh-hhh!!!! |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 22:47:00 | |
| Charlie: | I have used the hot paper clip approach. As for ebuckley, perhaps he needs bigger shoes. |
| # Posted 2007-08-28 22:50:42 | |
| ebuckley: | perhaps he needs bigger shoes
Nope, different toes. I've got hammer toes. My options are 1) don't run, 2) correct the toes with surgery (which may result in option 1 if the surgery doesn't go well), or 3) put up with losing a lot of toenails. |
| # Posted 2007-08-29 00:27:38 | |
| walk: | The drilling of the toe nail can be difficult and just aggravate the pressure. I've started feeding the needle under the nail to drain the fluid. It's like going under a blister, which it basically is, and there is not much feeling of the needle. The relief from getting the fluid out is instant. Well worth the effort.
I did experience the hot paper clip once. At the Health Clinic at Univ, The dr heated the end of the clip over an alcohol flame and put it to my thumb nail, swollen and very sore after a direct hit with a hammer during Hell Week ( by me). Could never get it to work again, but this was instant relief with a small fountain of fluid exiting the nail. |
| # Posted 2007-08-29 02:33:37 | |
| bill_l: | I generally loose 3 or 4 nails on longer events. I keep hoping they won't grow back.
Since the concept was mentioned earlier, the needle under the nail method should NOT use a red hot needle. Method works well if the blister is close to the front of the nail. I use the hot paperclip method. It has to be red-hot. Gas flame from the stove top and a pair of pliers. I was worried about burning my toe the first time I tried it. But you hear the fluid under the nail sizzle on the hot paperclip when you've made it through. The nail melts fairly quickly so you don't need a lot of pressure. |
| # Posted 2007-08-29 03:10:43 | |
| Joe: | had an accident with a manhole cover at work once. the emergency room doctor said he had just the thing. it was this electrified point that heated up instantly and when he jammed it down on the toenail it would go through and release the pressure. well he tried once and then twice without success. the third time he really jammed it down and it popped through the nail into the soft tissue underneath. the pain was so bad my leg jerked and kicked the guy in the chest as blood shot all over the place. painful, but quite funny at the time. |
| # Posted 2007-08-29 04:07:42 | |
| cmorse: | Toenails are completely optional.
I recall reading recently about an ultramarathon runner who solved the problem of losing toenails by having them all surgically removed - permanently. I think it might have been in Dean Karnazes book Ultramarathon Man which I sometimes see in the banner ads on this site. It wasn't Karnazes, but someone he talks about in the book. |
| # Posted 2007-08-29 19:41:55 | |
| ebuckley: | Several ultrarunners have gone that route - though I can't recall any by name offhand. The surgery is no big deal, but since it's elective, it's a pricey fix. |
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