Discussion: For the record

My minivan is more expensive than Harper's. Way more. But his can probably keep up with mine.

Hey, don't dis the van. It's a truck for those who aren't compensating for something... After 10 years of being a total AR-machine, oversized-bike and dog transporter, AWD WT recue vehicle etc, I'm looking at replacing mine. It's worth considerably less than my bike.
Only choice I have is another AWD Sienna. Where's my AWD Prius van, or even better a Tesla van?

Not for long, Hansel, as you'll have 'extra' luggage soon enough to weigh you down...