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Discussion: map v. control descriptions

in: Run_Bosco; Run_Bosco > 2015-11-07

Nov 9, 2015 3:34 AM # 
BigWillyStyle:
When in doubt, always always trust your control descriptions over your map. They have been created with the specific purpose of telling you what feature and which side of the feature the control is on, whereas the circle on the map is obligated only to tell you what direction and how far you need to go from the previous control. Practically speaking, you can also often tell which feature the control is on without looking at your control descriptions, but not always. Some course setters will indeed attempt to center their circles not just on the feature but on the relevant side of the feature, but in my experience this is not general practice. And of course, even if they do, we're talking about a millimeter or two of difference; it's very hard to consistently pinpoint the exact center of the circle while running.

All of which is an overly long-winded way of saying that control descriptions are your security blanket and best friend.
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Nov 9, 2015 4:07 AM # 
Run_Bosco:
This makes sense.

I shall follow the Order of the Description!
Nov 9, 2015 5:26 AM # 
Pink Socks:
Honestly, I don't know why this dog park isn't out-of-bounds, just like pretty much every other dog park we have on a map (Woodland Park, Shoreview, Fort Steilacoom, and maybe a few others that I'm forgetting.

They are a pain to get into or out of (either hopping a fence or using at least one gate), and they probably aren't all that safe (people running full speed with some potentially aggressive dogs).

Some course setters will indeed attempt to center their circles not just on the feature but on the relevant side of the feature, but in my experience this is not general practice.

I'm not 100% if this is the rule, but I'm under the impression that the circle should always be centered on the center of any point feature symbol (boulder dot, rootstock X, etc). This is to disambiguate it from potentially other symbols nearby.

The inside corner of a fence is a linear symbol, so I usually cheat the center of the circle to one side a little bit, but sometimes it's hard to tell. With area symbols, I tend to put the center exactly where the control is.
Nov 10, 2015 2:47 PM # 
Run_Bosco:
Re: dog run:

Yeah, that threw Kate for a loop, since she questioned whether she was really allowed to go in there. And you're right! What if there's a dog in there that's chill with walking people, but gets riled up when someone is running full speed? (Like how they chase people on bikes.) Also, I could imagine one of the dog walkers complaining to park staff about it.

That said... it did provide additional route choice on that side of the park. Unfortunately, it seemed to have a somewhat unfair influence, due to confusion about being able to go in there. Though again- it's not marked out-of-bounds, so that should be enough information... ?

I'm not 100% if this is the rule, but I'm under the impression that the circle should always be centered on the center of any point feature symbol (boulder dot, rootstock X, etc). This is to disambiguate it from potentially other symbols nearby.

Yes, this is what I thought: The circle should be centered on the feature and not the control.

The inside corner of a fence is a linear symbol, so I usually cheat the center of the circle to one side a little bit, but sometimes it's hard to tell. With area symbols, I tend to put the center exactly where the control is.

I'm not sure what's supposed to happen with linear features, but I do appreciate it being scooted to one side or another, particularly in a fence-corner scenario. But does that contradict the rule about placing circles on features and not locations? Maybe that rule only applies to point features?

In area situations, it makes sense to center it on the control. You aren't going to center it on the entire blob of vegetation and say it's on "one side" of it.

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