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Discussion: Most Northern O map?

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Nov 29, 2015 9:11 AM # 
Mr O-memes:
Which is the most northern o map you know? And is there maps on svalbard/Spitsbergen?
Nov 29, 2015 10:02 AM # 
Nov 30, 2015 2:29 AM # 
Do the polar bears use compasses?
Nov 30, 2015 3:04 AM # 
Golden ones, probably. (I hate those books.)
Nov 30, 2015 3:15 AM # 
Tromso in northern Norway has had midnight sun races.
Nov 30, 2015 3:26 AM # 
+1 JJ on the joke. Agree 100% on your parenthetical.
Nov 30, 2015 8:15 AM # 
I guess:
followed by:
Nov 30, 2015 2:39 PM # 
Lebesby looks like a good guess, but Tromsø is a bit futher north than Ilulissat, and I believe there are multiple maps in that vicinity; I don't know the exact locations.

As for Svalbard -- I doubt it.
Nov 30, 2015 5:52 PM # 
Just to feed tRicky's understandable myOpia! - surely Darwin or even Katherine NT has an O map?
Nov 30, 2015 6:07 PM # 
In the other direction, I'm pretty sure I remember that there's a (pretty basic) map at the south pole, and there was even an invitation for an event there a number of years ago (if anybody could actually find a way to get there).

Any nominees for easternmost or westernmost? :-)
Nov 30, 2015 6:16 PM # 
This is the Antarctica map:
Nov 30, 2015 6:20 PM # 
The one I was referring to was further south, at the Amundsen-Scott station. It was a basically flat area with some buildings. Might have been in black and white.
Nov 30, 2015 6:25 PM # 
At Oringen this year we made friends with a family from Alta which they said is the most Northerly club in Norway - and they're returning the visit next year for the JK 2016 in Yorkshire
Nov 30, 2015 6:40 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Closest to equator?
Nov 30, 2015 10:48 PM # 
Closest to magnetic poles? Doesn't the northern one tend to float around NE Canada? Must be some good enough terrain there to justify the novelty of a map with non-parallel north lines ;-)
Dec 1, 2015 1:53 AM # 
Bull Pillman, I don't believe in life outside of the second best WA :-) (although we do have a "rogaine" map somewhere in the Kimberlies but that barely counts).
Dec 1, 2015 2:36 AM # 
Do orienteers in Darwin compete for the Darwin award?
Dec 1, 2015 2:50 AM # 
No, they just compete to find out who is dar winner.
Dec 2, 2015 3:10 AM # 
@ tRicky: Not the same Pullman responsible for the aforementioned compass welding ursus maritimus.
Dec 2, 2015 4:00 AM # 
Indeed that would be Pup Pillman (when rendered as a diminutive typO)
Dec 2, 2015 1:14 PM # 
Terje Mathisen:
Back in 1977 I did the last part of my military service in Lakselv, which is at the south end of Porsangerfjord, we had several nearby O maps and I got to plan races every week.

Last year I made base maps for a brand new map (maps?) close to Alta.
Jan 4, 2016 4:26 PM # 
I have a niece who lives in Tromso that has a bunch of maps. I asked her and her fiance, who is Norwegian, if there were maps farther north. They did some research and found that there are maps associated with a club in Neverfjord. I googled orienteering Neverfjord and found information on an orienteering event there in 2015.
This may be the farthest north as this is farther north than any of Sweden and Finland.
Neverfjord is also north of Alta which is referenced above.
Jan 7, 2016 8:14 AM # 
There is a map on Svalbard, it was made last year or the year before. There was an article in "Veivalg" about it.
Jan 7, 2016 8:15 AM # 
You find it here:
Jan 7, 2016 1:26 PM # 
Well, how about that! They also have a 1:10000 version. I was slightly surprised that magnetic declination is nearly zero despite being so far north; Svalbard is apparently just lined up right on the complicated magnetic map. I do have to wonder whether any normal compass is going to work there, though, because the magnetic inclination appears to be somewhere between 80 and 90 degrees. Fortunately, I don't think you'd much need a compass on that map, the canyon walls should be adequate to keep you oriented. Latitude 78, average temperature in July is between 3 and 7 C (and there is no "night" at that time of year).

View from above:
Jan 7, 2016 2:17 PM # 
Svalbad map on google imagery. Would sure be interesting to know how compass works up there and what is the basis for north lines on there maps. Mainly for distance estimation?
Jan 7, 2016 9:44 PM # 
1:10,000 is unsuitable for real orienteering so doesn't count.
Jan 8, 2016 10:19 AM # 
Hope they don't put controls on the heads of those creeks
Jan 8, 2016 12:32 PM # 
Is the light blue a dam spillway?
Jan 8, 2016 12:42 PM # 
Any guesses as to what the black X symbols represent? Some are defunct telephone poles, maybe?
Jan 8, 2016 12:45 PM # 
Jan 8, 2016 1:06 PM # 
Black x symbols could be the old aerial tramway for transporting coal. I think you can see some in this image:
Jan 8, 2016 7:47 PM # 
what tropical diseases do they have there?
Jan 8, 2016 9:14 PM # 
Frostbite, mostly. As a friend found out when he was inquiring about an event that was not even that far north (Nanisivik): "No bugs. Too cold."
Jan 8, 2016 9:27 PM # 
Waters are infested with cold-water crocodiles
Jan 8, 2016 11:23 PM # 
Ohh, those tropical frost creatures bite pretty hard. Better carry properly your anti-frost spray.
Jan 9, 2016 1:24 PM # 
Glaciers run rampant over the map.
Jan 10, 2016 12:06 PM # 
Mr O-memes:
Awesome @jjocte and @ag! Cant thank you enough, will post photos this summer when me and my friend go there, and very likely will orienteer!
Jan 10, 2016 5:19 PM # 
Singapore is 1 degree N of the equator, and has started some orienteering, and has one "jungle" map and a few little urban sprint ones. Not sure you would really want to orienteer much in the jungle, though: tons of stray dogs, komodo dragons, pythons, cobras and crocodiles, huge spiders make for a much more cautious pace when away from regular trails. And some of the palm tree trunks have pretty nasty long spines, scratches from which are much uglier than what buck thorn can inflict, kind of like a cactus, but hidden in tons of colorful tropical foliage.
Jan 11, 2016 12:16 AM # 
It sounds really awful, I would say it is worse than Texas.
But not half as bad as forest overgrown with stinging nettle
Jan 11, 2016 1:35 AM # 
Dragons are extinct.
Jan 11, 2016 2:34 AM # 
Ok, monitor lizards, same family tree with the Komodo... still pretty big, would not want to stumble over one by mistake. They are easy to avoid and nice to look at when strolling through well groomed parks, yet...
And I'll take stinging nettles any day over stuff in the creepy crawly jungle.
Jan 12, 2016 9:01 AM # 
A Brit named Tom Scott does a lot of interesting YouTube videos. He made one called How to Visit Svalbard. He made a few others about Svalbard, including one about how you have to have a gun if you go outside the settled area, in case of a polar bear encounter.

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