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Discussion: I ran w a pack today and it...

in: billh; billh > 2016-01-12

Jan 12, 2016 4:52 PM # 
matzah ball:
I ran w a pack today and it occurred to me thats a strength training form of running - so you are doing some good base work...(on faster workouts i would ditch the pack if you can though, so you can focus on your form) Ever hear of Emil Zapotek?
Jan 12, 2016 7:30 PM # 
running to work, I pretty much have to wear a backpack with change of clothes, unless I stockpile, which takes coordination.

I just read his wiki entry . . . workboots!
Jan 12, 2016 8:11 PM # 
matzah ball:
"He discovered that the harder he worked in training the faster he ran on the track, so in the buildup to one record attempt he pushed himself to 100 400m runs a day – 50 in the morning, and another 50 in the afternoon, adding up to nearly 25 miles a day, with a couple of miles of sprints thrown in for good measure...

....He would run at night, carrying a torch. He would strap weights to his feet and then go cycling. He would make a cut-price treadmill by putting a layer of wet clothes at the bottom of his bath and running on them, one part athlete, one part washing machine. He ran in heavy army boots and embraced rain, ice and snow. "There is a great advantage in training under unfavourable conditions," he said. "It is better to train under bad conditions, for the difference is then a tremendous relief in a race."....

...The truth was that Zatopek worked too hard for his own good, and he continued to do so. In the buildup to the Melbourne Olympics in 1956 he started doing cross-country runs with his wife on his back, {no wonder, she was a javelin thrower} developed a hernia, needed an operation and very nearly missed the Games altogether. He recovered to finish sixth in the marathon, but soon after announced his retirement."
Jan 12, 2016 8:22 PM # 
matzah ball:
another blast from the past, paavo nurmi:

"In 1919, the first year of his military service, Nurmi and the rest of his army unit set off on a 12.5-mile march in full equipment, each soldier carrying a rifle, a cartridge belt and a backpack full of sand. There were rewards for the winners, so at least at the start they tried to walk briskly, even if few managed to sustain that pace for long. Nurmi ran the entire route. Within a year he was representing his country in the Olympics"
Jan 13, 2016 3:46 AM # 
don't tell Bradley! he will have you running in boots! or in the middle of the night. oh wait, you and Buckley already do that!

it does feel good running without the pack, having logged miles with it. there might be something to it. have to weigh that thing, must be a good 20 lbs. have to carry my lunch, which is usually in heavy pyrex container, plus full set of work clothes. various electronics, phone, wallet, etc. it adds up. then apples for snack. I'll weigh it before I leave tomorrow. gonna run-train commute each morning this week, tick up the miles.
Jan 13, 2016 3:47 AM # 
speaking of Buckley, he ran that 5:45 mile last year at FF track meet in early Aug as a training run. haha! just think what he could do if he peaked and tapered for it. geesh.
Jan 13, 2016 2:12 PM # 
matzah ball:
well, Buckley is very competitive. I have no doubt that he gave it all he had at the time even if he downplayed his effort a bit. Its almost certain his mile time would improve w/ mile specific training and prep at least into the 5:20 - 5:30 range, but as he himself has said, he is not a short track guy. It would take a remake/re-focus to do that. The range of his abilities and the speed he carries into the longer events is very impressive...and there is a reason why he gravitated to those events.
Jan 13, 2016 2:15 PM # 
matzah ball:
let me tell you, you can lighten that pack if you want to! heavy pyrex container? - not neccesary! wallet - just put a couple of durable rubber bands around your id's, various electronics - how many do you really need? work clothes - leave a set at the office.

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