Discussion: I know nothing
in: blairtrewin; blairtrewin > 2016-01-14
Jan 15, 2016 7:15 AM
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Jan 15, 2016 9:24 AM
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There have been a few good ones along those lines.
A lot of people are understandably highly sceptical, but I can believe that he genuinely didn't know that the substances Stephen Dank was using were banned (which may explain something which is otherwise mystifying - that neither he nor Dean Robinson have been charged with any doping offences). Still, as someone in politics (I've forgotten who) once said in their resignation speech - "I did not know. I should have asked". He also doesn't seem to appreciate that accountability sometimes means the person at the top taking the fall even when the larger mistakes were made by those underneath him.
It also seems apparent that the football people in the club wanted Dank sacked fairly early in the 2012 season (although by then the damage was probably already done), but that they were stalled by the club administration, presumably because they were looking for a way to do so legally without a big payout (eventually he was booted for unauthorised expenditure).
The can of worms which no-one seems especially interested in opening is what was being done at which other clubs. In particular, I would imagine that the other clubs that Dank has had an involvement with (Carlton, Geelong and Gold Coast if I recall correctly) would be getting nervous about what might happen if he decides he's got nothing left to lose and it's time to tell all.
I've also thought sometimes about how I would know about it in the (hopefully extremely unlikely) event that anything like that was happening in orienteering. The answer is that the money trail would be the best chance; it would be difficult for any significant amount of OA money to be spent without my knowledge.
A lot of people are understandably highly sceptical, but I can believe that he genuinely didn't know that the substances Stephen Dank was using were banned (which may explain something which is otherwise mystifying - that neither he nor Dean Robinson have been charged with any doping offences). Still, as someone in politics (I've forgotten who) once said in their resignation speech - "I did not know. I should have asked". He also doesn't seem to appreciate that accountability sometimes means the person at the top taking the fall even when the larger mistakes were made by those underneath him.
It also seems apparent that the football people in the club wanted Dank sacked fairly early in the 2012 season (although by then the damage was probably already done), but that they were stalled by the club administration, presumably because they were looking for a way to do so legally without a big payout (eventually he was booted for unauthorised expenditure).
The can of worms which no-one seems especially interested in opening is what was being done at which other clubs. In particular, I would imagine that the other clubs that Dank has had an involvement with (Carlton, Geelong and Gold Coast if I recall correctly) would be getting nervous about what might happen if he decides he's got nothing left to lose and it's time to tell all.
I've also thought sometimes about how I would know about it in the (hopefully extremely unlikely) event that anything like that was happening in orienteering. The answer is that the money trail would be the best chance; it would be difficult for any significant amount of OA money to be spent without my knowledge.
Jan 15, 2016 10:00 AM
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Geez Blair It sounds as though you're another Bombers fan making excuses. He was the Head Coach of the football club, he is completely responsible. Ignorance isn't a defence and I can't believe he still tries to shift the blame, it makes me so frustrated, he is completely delusional.
Jan 15, 2016 10:03 AM
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I think I said much the same thing in different words in the last sentence of the second paragraph above. I don't believe - although plenty will disagree with me - that it was his intention to engage in doping, but what I do believe he is guilty of is a catastrophic failure of due diligence.
Jan 16, 2016 6:50 AM
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On his appointment as coach didn't Hird profess to want his players to have bigger, stronger bodies with better recovery? So why would the club not then go out and hire Robinson and Dank?
There seems to be no mention these days of Hird's own injection of a banned substance.
On another tack, why are people (Greens leader Di Natale, and several journalists) going around saying that WADA was primarily created for the Olympics which is mainly individual sports. Have they not heard of hockey, football, volleyball, basketball, handball, rowing, water polo, etc. etc.
There seems to be no mention these days of Hird's own injection of a banned substance.
On another tack, why are people (Greens leader Di Natale, and several journalists) going around saying that WADA was primarily created for the Olympics which is mainly individual sports. Have they not heard of hockey, football, volleyball, basketball, handball, rowing, water polo, etc. etc.
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