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Feb 2, 2016 3:21 PM # 
bubo: hear.
If and when I show any interest in NHL hockey nowadays I still root for the canadian teams in general. What´s the problem here today - not enough money to buy players or something else??

These days there are European (Swedish) players on most teams so there´s no reason to follow any particular team for that reason as may have been the case in the early days. Early days for me meaning late sixties and early seventies when I followed hockey more closely than today.

My earliest "home team" was the Montreal Canadiens - vintage version with Jean Beliveau, Yvan Cournoyer, Jacques Plante et al - winning the first expansion version of the Stanley Cup vs St.Louis in 1967. Some interest also in Toronto since that was the only other Canadian team then. After I spent a year in Calgary (in 1982) - after the expansion(s) - I also followed them for a while.
Feb 2, 2016 3:43 PM # 
Nope, not a money issue at present (lower Canadian dollar will eventually hurt), but mostly management issues.
Ottawa: super inconsistent
Montreal: Price is hurt and the team has melted down
Toronto: tanking
Winnipeg: it is cold
Calgary: weak goaltending and young inconsistent team
Edmonton: defence? we need to play defence?
Vancouver: remind me of a WC football team that has aging stars with kids that are too young to help out (ie Canadian womens team last summer)
Feb 2, 2016 7:57 PM # 
Pink Socks:
If and when I show any interest in NHL hockey nowadays I still root for the canadian teams in general.

As a 'Murican, even I generally root for Canadian hockey teams. Here's my NHL pecking order of rooting interest:

1) Vancouver. Regional team. Go PNW!
2) St. Louis. Born there and went to my only NHL game there when I was probably 9.
3) Pittsburgh. Mario Lemieux was good when I was little, plus penguins. Who doesn't love penguins?
4) Montreal. I used to like the Expos as a kid because they needed some love. Best sweaters, period.

I've Pretty Much Always Had a Western Bias
5) Calgary.
6) Edmonton.

I Like Old School, and Original Six is Old School:
7) New York Rangers
8) Toronto
9) Chicago
10) Detroit

11) Ottawa. The Canadian team that's just "there" for some reason.
12) Buffalo. Great look now, but were really ugly from 1996-2010.

Teams I Can't Really Get Behind Because They Are Too New-ish:
13) Winnipeg. Yes, I know that they aren't new, and they reclaimed a Canadian team, but their look is uninspired.
14) Columbus.
15) Minnesota. Logo looks too much like K-State, my college rivals, colors too 90's.
16) Colorado. Stole a Canadian team, colors too 90's.

Mid-Atlantic Teams that I'm Kinda "Meh" About
17) Philadelphia
18) Washington Capitals
19) New York Islanders
20) New Jersey

Despite Being Original Six, I'm Increasingly Hating Teams From:
21) Boston

Should barely exist, because Gretzky:
22) Los Angeles

These teams shouldn't exist, period:
Florida, Tampa Bay, Carolina, Dallas, Nashville, Arizona, Anaheim, San Jose
Feb 2, 2016 9:24 PM # 
Pink: I think the Leafs are about to announce a new logo, or at least a new, um, Leaf.

And I think the Sharks are now a real market. Long history of success, solid franchise.
Feb 2, 2016 9:54 PM # 
I think that despite the low Canadian dollar half of the league's revenue still comes from the Canadian teams and Canadian TV deals. Makes you wonder why we don't have 2-3 more teams eh!

Order or preference for cheering?...
Top Tier:
1) Toronto
2) Edmonton (hey I'm still living the Gretzky dream)

Next tier of 8: Vancouver, Winnipeg, Colorado (old Que), LA (Gretzky Dream 2.0), Chicago (Toews), Detroit (Swedes), Pittsburgh (Crosby), Buffalo (close to the Hammer)

The rest of the original 6 (minus Montreal) Tier
NYR, Boston (Parry Sound link).

Never ever cheer for these teams Tier:
Montreal, Tampa, Ottawa, Calgary, Phoenix

The meh tier (cheer if they are playing the 'never ever' tier) but otherwise nothing to get excited about these teams.
The rest

My wife is a Habs and Flames fan. Yes (believe it or not) Etoile has one flaw. ;-)
Feb 2, 2016 10:19 PM # 
Leafs record and Cup wins by logo:

Leafs last won the cup exactly 100 days before I was born...and I'm only "young" by NorAM O standards.
Feb 3, 2016 3:22 AM # 
Feb 3, 2016 4:01 PM # 
Oh, well...
Another maple leaf - no imagination - when there are so many others to choose from.
Feb 5, 2016 12:25 PM # 
as of this AM 7 of 9 worst teams in league are Canadian and one of the 2 American teams is Buffalo (and they are treated as a sorta s Ontario team anyway).
Feb 5, 2016 8:28 PM # 
Pink Socks:
I lurve the new logo and I can't wait to see the sweaters to match!
Feb 5, 2016 9:35 PM # 
pinksocks should get HonCan (honourary Canadian) status for using the word sweater. Nice.
Mar 10, 2016 8:00 PM # 
Mar 10, 2016 9:02 PM # 
Pink Socks:
As Seinfeld famously said, "We're cheering for laundry."

The American teams are wearing American laundry, but the players hail from all over, oftentimes from Canada.

On the flip side, how many Blue Jays or Raptors are Canadian?

I would wager that most Canadians prefer to root for Canadian teams, rather than Canadian players on US teams. And vice versa. (Which makes watching Olympic hockey feel a little dirty to some people).

I've never lived in a city that had an NBA team (aside from the last few years of the Sonics), so I don't really have an allegiance to one. I've always respected the Spurs (and now the Warriors), and I usually find myself rooting for teams with KU players on them.
Mar 10, 2016 9:49 PM # 
>I would wager that most Canadians prefer to root for Canadian teams, rather than Canadian players on US teams.

That depends on age. There are a lot of kicks in southern Ontario wearing Pittsburgh Penguins jerseys because of Sidney Crosby. There are pockets of southern Ontario where non Canadian teams are more popular with fans. Buffalo in Niagara, Detroit in Windsor, Jets in TBay, Boston in Oshawa and Parry Sound,..... Phoenix in Hamilton? (oh what might have been...)

re: Blue jays and Raptors. Best to ask somebody who actually watches these sports. I find baseball and basketball both terribly boring.
Mar 10, 2016 9:54 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Oh wow, interesting. Is Crosby from southern Ontario?

I guess that theory goes along with my following of NBA teams with KU players (the Celtics when Paul Pierce was there is the best personal example for me).
Mar 10, 2016 10:17 PM # 
Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia. Home town of Sidney Crosby, Nathan McKinnon ..... and err Oivind Naess

Here are two of those guys working the Cole Harbour Timmies.

Mar 10, 2016 11:15 PM # 
Blue Jays: All star starting catcher (Russell Martin), starting left fielder (Michael Saunders), possible 4th outfielder/good prospect (Dalton Pompey).

Raptors: first guard off the bench (Cory Joseph), and the recently waived (Anthony Bennett - former 1st pick overall in the NBA Draft - trending towards worst 1st pick overall in NBA history).
Mar 11, 2016 3:17 PM # 
Important trivia:

There are swedish hockey teams named "Björklöven" (The Birch Leafs), "Asplöven" (The Aspen Leafs) and "Lindlöven" (The Linden Leafs) but none called "Lönnlöven" that I know of.
Mar 11, 2016 3:51 PM # 

I've been to a bjorkloven game and have their jersey somewhere
Mar 11, 2016 8:24 PM # 
Pink Socks:

I might have to give you honorary American status for that word choice!
Mar 17, 2016 9:45 PM # 
Don´t forget the legendary "Asplövet" blog (defunct since 2012 but still well worth a read).
Mar 31, 2016 12:08 PM # 
it's official! all Canadian teams will not make nhl playoffs. only the second time in NHL history (1970).
Mar 31, 2016 1:40 PM # 
So who´s out?

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