Too sloppy for much here.
These are the best pants I've found for biking or snowshoeing in very wet conditions where you need breathability:
I had Manisa add zippered pockets.
It was pretty sloppy here. Too much for anything but the fattie. Those look pretty good for full leg cover. I've been ok with my water and wind proof knickers down to -7C. They only extend to just below the knee so I need something else for colder. They are much like a dry suit for waist to knees.