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Discussion: plantar fasciitis

in: Izzy B; Izzy B > 2016-02-23

Feb 24, 2016 8:47 AM # 
hope you get better soon
Feb 24, 2016 12:19 PM # 
I've noticed pain in the heel of my foot from that brace too. It was worse when I started wearing it but it's ok now. Did you just get a new brace?
Feb 24, 2016 12:33 PM # 
Ouch. Worth seeing a physical therapist or a doc who is also a runner for good advice on how to rehab if it's PF.
Feb 24, 2016 1:50 PM # 
Izzy B:
@AG - I just got a new brace to try to avoid that pain that we both experienced... lol irony. Do you have high arches?
Feb 24, 2016 3:24 PM # 
That sounds awful. I'd definitely get both a new brace and a second opinion. And a calf massage.
Feb 24, 2016 3:31 PM # 
Urg, bummer. And no, mine are very low.
Definitely check out the combo of shoes with the brace, do you find it with any other type of shoes?
Feb 24, 2016 7:53 PM # 
Izzy B:
Yeah I have to do some experimenting with other shoes. I have really high arches so the doctors were recommending arch supports too... I have no idea how all of that is going to fit into my shoe.

Update on pain level: I'm still using crutches but I can hobble around without them for a short amount of time without too much pain. The foot definitely feels swollen when I put pressure on it. I'm unconvinced that this is plantar fasciitis... I just think the tendons and or muscles in my foot were really unhappy with being all bunched up and pounded on for two hours.
Feb 24, 2016 11:42 PM # 
The first PT I worked with took some thick plastic (1/8") softened it in hot water, molded it to my feet from heel cup to forefoot, pushing hard on the arch part (I also have crazy high arches), then told me to replace the insert in my running shoes with it. Granted, no brace and took a bit of getting used to, but immediate relief. Fit just fine in running shoes, boots, and even my normal civilian shoes. Even when I got real orthotics, I kept these because they fit better.

I have a commercial version called e-soles, not sure they make them any more, but they're only inserts I've found that have higher arch support than my arches. Same theory - just replaces your insole, only area that takes up more space is the part under your arch.

That's probably where the brace goes, though...

Does PF ever come on suddenly? Always very gradual for me...
Feb 25, 2016 12:00 AM # 
Funnily enough plantar fascitis is exactly when the tendon connecting your heel to your toes gets irritated, swollen, and weakened.

Furthermore, you are more prone to develop it if you:
  • have high arches
  • stand, walk, or run for long periods on hard surfaces
  • Have ill fitting shoes (or braces)
  • have tight Achilles tendon or calf muscles

These are all things you mentioned recently on your log.
Feb 25, 2016 3:38 AM # 
Izzy B:
Oh wow Michael that was very informative thanks! That was more information than what the doctors gave me. I am still very surprised by how sudden it came on though.
Feb 25, 2016 3:39 AM # 
Great info all! Michael, thanks! Definitely hit on all points.
Feb 25, 2016 8:29 AM # 
i found that if i had to work at a desk and couldn't elevate while icing that freezing a 2L Coke (never Pepsi) bottle with 80% water and then sit it on the ground and roll it with your foot wearing a thin sock was good medicine. A night splint may also be needed.

Cards against humanity also dulls the pain of an injury for short periods of time as well. I can also recommend a good cane once you move off the crutches.
Feb 25, 2016 5:06 PM # 
Mike, I can't tell if you're serious or not.
Feb 25, 2016 5:16 PM # 
If PF, I highly recommend the night splint. I've heard the Strassburg Sock does the same thing and is more comfortable, though (
Feb 25, 2016 6:07 PM # 
I'm giving my two cents :) In my very limited experience with PF and with others that I know, I've never heard of it coming on so suddenly. It sounds like maybe you did indeed (somehow) irritate that area and strain something, but PF that I know of comes on slowly. At the same time, if you've inflamed the plantar fascia maybe it doesn't matter what you call it because the treatment is probably the same! To get mine to go away I borrowed a boot thingy from Wyatt and I know of others who have used the same thing (Marc L and Anna SS) to great success. Something like this or this. The boot is bulkier and takes some getting used to but I think it works way better than the sock.
Feb 26, 2016 1:57 AM # 
My thoughts are the same as Samantha's. To go from no pain to very bad pain in the course of a single run doesn't sound like PF to me at all.
Feb 26, 2016 2:28 AM # 
Hammer is serious about the frozen water bottle. My sports med physician gave me that same advise and it does work.

Also I agree with Samantha about preferring the boot over the Strassburg Sock. I've had a prolonged experience with PF and have worn the boot for years. The sock I tried exactly twice and both times found myself tearing it off in the middle of the night due to the aggravation.

Miclaraia's point about calf and achilles is important. The calf, achilles, and plantar fascia are all connected one to the next. For chronic PF sufferers the damage is re-done each morning when you get out of bed and step onto the floor if you don't stretch your calf first. Then step directly into a pair of Crocs and don't walk around barefoot.

I found a good calf stretch using a rolled up towel to pull with somewhere on youtube. There was also a planter fascia stretch there, too.
Feb 26, 2016 5:52 AM # 
Izzy B:
Thanks for all the tips guys. Pretty sure whatever this is isn't PF. I was able to move around on it very easily today which was a huge improvement from yesterday. Seems like the swelling went down considerably.

@mike - I will take the Cards Against Humanity advice to heart... Dark, evil heart.
Feb 26, 2016 8:23 AM # 
FWIW at this point, I've gotten PF relief from simply rolling a can of soup, while sitting and otherwise occupied.
Feb 26, 2016 8:40 AM # 
If you guys are still in Tucson, comes recommended.
Feb 26, 2016 12:11 PM # 
Guess I won't be pitching the boot as part of Campbell household downsizing. Thanks for the advice, all!
Feb 26, 2016 5:55 PM # 
At least we know that the community will enthusiastically rally around circumstances with PF and crutches!

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