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in: blairtrewin; blairtrewin > 2016-03-20

Mar 20, 2016 11:46 AM # 
in Australia is usually for wimps. As someone brought up in the UK on courses involving snow, sleet, knee-deep mud, farmyards with ankle-deep cow muck, waist-deep stream crossings and steep (I mean steep!) slopes, all the C-C courses I encountered in Perth were like the grass-track 440 ovals that I'd read about in Herb Elliott's book.
Mar 20, 2016 11:50 AM # 
Local HS uses the race track (ie horse race track) because it is opposite the school. Really! I just wish it had jumps.
Mar 20, 2016 11:59 AM # 
They do use horse racing tracks (eg Longchamps 1980) for the World C-C sometimes - not really kosher in my view.
Mar 21, 2016 1:24 AM # 
I thought mud was an essential part of cross country (at school ours also partly used the race track, as the local park run does now)
Mar 21, 2016 6:10 AM # 
Guildford Grammar on the banks of the Swan River used to have a very muddy XC course back until 1987. However they changed their course to Peachy Rd start and two laps of steep trails in John Forrest NP. Good genuine course either way. Scotch College had two laps of their playing fields plus a short sandhill near the drive in. ChristChurch was soft sand, rather hilly single track for all bar a short section of playing fields.

All inter club XC I ever saw was Perry Lakes, Carine Open Space - or the hardcore Jorgensson Park. So perhaps Simmo missed out by being too old to be a school boy XC runner in Perth?
Mar 21, 2016 10:15 AM # 
Glad to hear that schools did the right thing Tooms. I was a WA Athletics member for several years and the X-C courses were all as boring as batshit, at the locations you describe. Jorgensen was not used during my time, but I believe it was still laps of around 2km like all the others, rather than point-to-point which was my experience growing up in the UK.

Before my time in WA was the race on the Reabold sand tracks (2 laps of 5km) where a local beat Ron Clarke, 10k WR holder at the time. WAAA wimped out after that race, but WAMC did resurrect the course (but only one lap) for a few years until the sand tracks were closed off and revegetated. The WAMC race was a handicap, which GA won on handicap one year when I competed.
Mar 22, 2016 2:35 AM # 
Gee, the bridle trail would have been horrendous for anyone not well-versed in running technique for deep soft sand!
Mar 22, 2016 7:58 AM # 
Or anyone wearing shoes!
Mar 22, 2016 11:38 AM # 
Anything more challenging than a fire trail was considered hard going in Canberra cross-country (with a couple of notable exceptions).
Mar 22, 2016 3:28 PM # 
I assume the WAMC race involved paper based entries if GA got a start.
Mar 23, 2016 1:05 AM # 
Payment in $1 notes from the stash under the mattress I'll bet too.
Mar 23, 2016 2:20 AM # 
It was about 1973 tRicky, I think to enter we just chucked a few coins into a bucket.
Mar 23, 2016 3:51 AM # 
Mar 23, 2016 4:51 AM # 
No pre-entry? That's just not right. I suppose you had to blaze your own trail too.

Maybe we could readopt the coins-in-a-bucket method for our own state champs. In fact having a bucket at each control to accept a bribe donation would prove a visit to each location.
Mar 23, 2016 8:34 AM # 
Rotto marathon had a gold coin donation at the far end. I think it was Rotto. Or maybe you collected a gold coin to prove you'd got there...

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