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Discussion: Is it always closed to cars?

in: phatty; phatty > 2016-04-11

Apr 12, 2016 3:01 AM # 
Or is that a winter thing?

I have a Salomon shoe question, if you still remember and if it doesn't pose a conflict of interest. ;) Is the Speedcross Vario the closest thing to my old Speedcross? I'm intrigued by the Speedcross Pro too and will probably end up with both of them eventually. Thanks!
Apr 13, 2016 2:39 AM # 
Both were very much in my care. In fact, everything up until the end of SS17 can be classified as such. I'll take credit or blame up until that point.

I briefed SPEEDCROSS VARIO as a SPEED shoe for drier and harder ground - whereas the traditional SPEEDCROSS evolved into a trail runner for wet and soft conditions. The VARIO has a different lug geometry for more ground contact and achieves traction through friction, as opposed to...ahem...penetration. I actually wrote that in my product brief. I!

The SPEEDCROSS PRO is like the SPEEDCROSS but is closer to foot, has slightly less drop, a little more cushion in the forefoot, had the endoFIT internal fit sleeve for better foothold, and has significantly better traction on wet rocks. The rubber compound on these is truly incredible. I've been using shoes with that compound for a couple of years and it's night and day vs. some of the old stuff. Even CoachLD will like it!
Apr 13, 2016 2:41 AM # 
...and yes, that road is always closed to cars. So good.
Apr 13, 2016 3:29 AM # 
Just in time, thanks! I'm making my spring pilgrimage to the Salomon Store tomorrow. :)

I'm not sure whether the trails in northern Italy involve friction or, um, penetration. Hmm.

I'd never thought of the old Speedcross as wet/soft ground shoes like the Fellcross and XT Softground but that's just because I didn't use them that way, I guess. I use them as all-condition shoes. Interesting. It sounds like the Vario might be happier when a trail race has a short paved road section? My Speedcross have never enjoyed roads.

Now I'm excited to buy a pair of each - which was your clever scheme for the Speedcross market all along, wasn't it? :) Thanks!
Apr 13, 2016 8:46 PM # 
I brought home Speedcross Pros to start - they look great! So I opted for... well, I opted against friction. ;)

Why the shoe laces on the Varios? After all these years of wearing Salomons, who knows how to tie a bow anymore?
Apr 14, 2016 4:06 AM # 
Long story on the laces. The moral? I lost the debate.
Apr 14, 2016 4:21 AM # 
What was an argument in favour of the old school laces?

The clerk at the Salomon Store told me that several customers have asked her to install Quick Laces even though there is no lace garage so it's not easy for them to use the shoes that way.
Apr 14, 2016 3:28 PM # 
Carbon's Offset:
Bummer about the laces. Salomon has the best system.
Apr 15, 2016 8:31 PM # 
Different strokes for different folks. I'm with you...I can't even tie laces anymore.
Apr 16, 2016 1:43 AM # 
coach ld:
Get Weeanimal to teach you.
I would love to try the stuff that is "truly incredible" for traction on wet rocks (so would my mother). But am I allowed to buy Salomon stuff anymore? Or does Arcteryx now make that stuff (for $800 a pair)?
Apr 16, 2016 2:01 AM # 
I bought that kind. Put on two pairs of socks and you can try the fancy traction!
Apr 17, 2016 4:02 PM # 
The wicked rubber compound is on the SS16 S-LAB SENSE 5 and SG, S-LAB WINGS and SG, S-LAB SPEED, and SPEEDCROSS PRO.
Apr 18, 2016 4:58 PM # 
I need to find me some wet rocks!
Apr 19, 2016 12:57 AM # 
Look in a gin and tonic

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