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Discussion: Six hours?

in: Ricka; Ricka > 2016-04-13

Apr 14, 2016 8:25 PM # 
I've seen guys stretch logable athletic training....but gardening for six hours? What do you think your maximum heart rate was during this 'workout?' If it wasn't over 140, then I say you can't log it.
Apr 15, 2016 4:50 PM # 
There are no rules about what can and can't be logged on attackpoint. It's not a competition. It's up to each person to decide what they want to log, how they want to use the record, and what it means to them.

I think that if you don't do a particular type of activity, and then do it for 6 hours one day... it's likely very nice (and meaningful) to keep a record of that.

And, heartrate isn't the only way to determine athleticism. My heart doesn't race when I do serious stretching or even for many types of strength work... but that doesn't mean it's not meaningful athletic.
Apr 15, 2016 7:02 PM # 
Rules? Well if you check the Attackpoint logo (above) you'll see that this site is for:

...performance and training tools for orienteering athletes...

Does sitting on the ground, pulling weeds qualify?

I used to log my rounds of golf, and all the walking to and from the bus stop to the golf course. And I logged the practice on the driving range too...until I realized that I may have had a full log of activity, but none of it was really beneficial aerobic training that would ensure that I remained 'an athlete!'

In other words, I slacked off to the point that I could hardly run a mile anymore. I think slacking off is common to old guys like me and Rick. So, for want of a better metric, I suggest old guys maintain a heart-rate cut off. Perhaps 100 or 120 would be adequate. But if we don't establish some standard, I think we're fooling ourselves...and will eventually suffer for it.
Apr 15, 2016 9:36 PM # 
First, I don't sit when I pull weeds! My weeds are stronger than your weeds!

Wow, I'm glad that I didn't record my real gardening time! 6 hours of gardening is healthier than 6 hours of bridge -- I log it. I don't log bridge even if we're playing EW. [cardiology joke!]
Even on cardiology treadmill stress test, I've sometimes not been able to hit goal of 140 HR. Cardiologist is not concerned and he's very impressed when I last 17-19 minutes, ending at a running pace at 18% incline -- much longer than most of his patients.

3 hour 2.5+ mph hikes; 5-day, 300+ mile cycling; 1/2-1 mile swims -- I never take my heart rate but sure doesn't feel like 100+.
Hmm, is my slow max heart rate healthy or unhealthy?

As AP enforcer, in your opinion, how often must one orienteer annually to qualify to log onto AP with AP being "for orienteering athletes"?

Bottom line: I prefer AP libertarianism over AP socialism.
Apr 17, 2016 10:42 PM # 
matzah ball:
Chi, gardening is better than a gym membership, believe me. (and Rick). Its not a straight line aerobic activity, but it is valuable as weight and core training. I log everything and anything that contributes or seems ancillary to my running fitness. Just one question - how come you never chastised me for logging gardening? I feel left out.

(And btw being able to maintain 18% on a treadmill is darn impressive! )
Apr 18, 2016 12:17 AM # 
18% -- They made me! They wire you all up and start the machine. Ala 1960's psych experiments, I figured that they would shock me if I didn't keep up. :)

I do need the Y to keep my joints loose, keep lower back strong, and keep left leg toned. I like the workout once I get there but getting there is chore.

After years of neglect/minimal maintenance, I've finally decided to tame my perennial garden -- keeping the plants I like and buying some natives, but digging out a lot of roots, vines, phlox, day-lilies, grasses etc. The plants I left are really enjoying their new elbow room. Also dug out and rebuilt the brick edging - very tedious.

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