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Discussion: The 'thon

in: G; G > 2016-04-24

Apr 25, 2016 9:46 PM # 
Well done on finishing Gaz. That took guts. Pun intended.
2:40 shouldn't elude you for long. Like you said: a 20+ mile run or three as well as a few types of longer tempo/marathon pace sessions will get the body prepared and the mind convinced to 'let' you run that fast (Timothy Noakes' Central Governor Theory is worth a read if you're not familiar with it).
I'm a few seconds off the sub 2:40 club myself so have unfinished business with the distance.
My AP write-ups for Berlin 2011 (2:42:03) and London 2012 (2:40:02, by my watch) may be of use... if you can stay awake through the waffle.
Essentially I resolved to do the longer, faster runs and a bit more volume 'next time'.
Maybe I'll join you in a 2:39:59 mission next year!
Apr 26, 2016 10:20 AM # 
I have heard about the central governor theory and it makes sense to me, never bought the idea that lactate build-up caused a decrease in performance. I have always been careful to keep my core temp down while running, on Sunday this might have gone too far - I poured water over my head before tower bridge and got really cold when on the bridge. Can really relate to the need to convince yourself you can run that fast.

2 seconds off is as good as there :)

I'm tempted to do a marathon other than London next time, but won't rule out joining you, as having company for the same pace would make it so much easier!
Apr 26, 2016 6:16 PM # 
company for the same pace in training probably more important?

check out Pete Hodges' training log from his run-up to Manchester. Tuesdays were normal sessions, Thursdays tempo runs at marathon pace up to about an hour, Sunday long runs working up to 20+ miles - although it went a bit tits up on the day due to hip issues, the work was there (and showed in XC races in the build up)
Apr 27, 2016 7:17 AM # 
Yup you are right. I have access to a bunch of fast guys here in Nottingham, I plan to ask them to crank it up when we go out in the future.
Apr 28, 2016 9:11 PM # 
Yeah the core temp thing is another limiting factor in marathon performance. There have been fast 'big' guys but they never win the Olympics. Proportional surface area: Spring and Autumn marathons, they can get away with; sweltering summer championships, not so much!
I had Mike Sprot, Ross McLennan and Paul Couldridge (orienteers all) through halfway. It was ace to share pacing duties and grab drinks for each other.
Apr 29, 2016 11:04 AM # 
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