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Discussion: Junior Selection

in: BrandNewMe; BrandNewMe > 2016-05-18

May 18, 2016 8:30 PM # 
The exact words on the website are: "The Pre JWOC 2017 Camp is aimed at athletes who have been working within the squad system for at least a year and are considered to be potential contenders for the Junior World Orienteering Championships in 2017."

My reading would be that you have to be both fast AND "working within the squad system"....
May 18, 2016 8:56 PM # 
But why "working within the squad system"? As a senior, I ducked as many squad weekends as possible as they very, very rarely met my needs. I wouldn't touch a system like the junior squad in its current form.

Athletes should be allowed to approach their development in the way they feel works for them best, without being penalised for doing so.
May 18, 2016 9:18 PM # 
Thank goodness for JROS.
May 18, 2016 10:37 PM # 
That is also a matter of opinion :(
May 19, 2016 9:05 AM # 
I really hate the current system - it is so inflexible and up its own arse. If you show talent we should be bending over backwards to offer you opportunities no matter what your background. Kids change ability and motivation from month to month and it's really hard to determine who will make it and who won't we you have to be all-inclusive and more open/welcoming, build a large base and allow for people to change, plateau, improve over a longer period than a year. I'd say that Sport England support is simply strangling our junior development by ring-fencing ideas and opportunities - the leader needs to think outside the box more. Have I just had a rant, again? ! ;-)
May 19, 2016 10:17 AM # 
Too close to this to rant too much - I'm trying to stay calm. Spent a couple of hours emailing round trying to sort out alternative training opportunities for one of the athletes concerned - why should I have to do this when there are folk paid to do it? What's worse is that like last year they'll be off to BO and Sport England claiming credit for top 10s that they did next to nothing to contribute to! Rant over.
May 19, 2016 10:33 AM # 
It would be refreshing if they would select the juniors that are performing the best right now, rather than the junior that a) ran well last year and b) agreed to pay money to sign up to the squad. It must be extra hard to swallow when the reluctance to pay to join the squad is seen as a lack of commitment to the sport.
May 19, 2016 1:29 PM # 
Could we put forward an AGM motion to have all selections moved to BOF members unconnected with the performance program?
May 20, 2016 7:47 AM # 
But regional squads are just as bad.
At the RR event last night I took a total pummelling from a couple of their juniors. Keen, fast juniors posing in the international tops they got from World Schools. But they can't even train with ScotJos presumably because "their technique is still a bit flaky" *. It seems that longstanding O-families conspire to keep newcomers out.

When james was in that position, there was only one open option - SEDS, the absolute gold standard of how it should be done.

* That's a quote for why a young Scott Fraser wasn't allowed into ScotJOS...
May 20, 2016 8:17 AM # 

Helping Scottish athletes reach their potential. We organise top quality training weekends open to all aspiring elites.

I like a real mix of training partners and meeting people who orienteer to different levels as you always learn something from listening to their thoughts - even if it is how NOT to orienteer.
May 20, 2016 10:33 AM # 
Yes, SEDS, perfect. I only wish people would actually attend and self-promote, great work by volunteers not being fully utilized.

But ScotJos is stifled by its numbers now. Currently there are very talented youngsters being excluded, not because they haven't made the grade but simply because there are too many good people in their age class. Stupidity. Make the squad as large as it needs to be for the criteria set - or change the criteria.
Personally, I'd rather see ScotJos up to 100s of juniors rather than strangle talent at such an age.... I' know it's about management but parents are willing and you can regionalize weekends if necessary.

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