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Discussion: Not Fit

in: Super; Super > 2016-06-04

Jun 4, 2016 7:33 PM # 
If you can do your last 2K of a punishing 18K run in less than 9 minutes, you can't be *that* unfit. P.S. Nice GPS track!
Jun 4, 2016 9:23 PM # 
Agreed. Max heart rate at 176 after that much time at effort. Worthy.
Jun 4, 2016 10:27 PM # 
I love you guys. Thanks.
Jun 5, 2016 6:07 PM # 
Interesting elevation calculation, about 25% of what mine has for this loop... I think the section from Cootes at the water just to the top of Borers would account for more than half of your 179m, let alone the dozens of other hills in that run.

Already this watch is letting you (and I) down. Shoulda went with a Suunto...
Jun 5, 2016 8:45 PM # 
I noticed that too. Let's go with your numbers. The altituderizer is not the reason to buy that watch.

On your run today I thought it would be good to reverse the route for more downhill to make it easier. That would be exactly the same or vey close to the dump run. Burlington runners does that as a standard weekend long run from lasalle. 7 am Saturday or Sunday. I don't know because at that time of day I've never gone. I did it with paul once but turned back toward lemonville instead of going all the way out to rbg.

Solo effort today?
Jun 5, 2016 10:20 PM # 
Crickets on the invite... Nothing but 80's hair bands to keep me company.

While the elevation +/- would be the same the reverse might be easier since once you're up King it's much more gradual running downhill. King's fairly steep so a bit of a waste for running.
Jun 5, 2016 11:50 PM # 
There you go with that +/- wizardry again. I'm still not convinced. But I was thinking about the gradual downhill over a longer period.

why is up king a waste? Good, hard run make you strong, no?
Jun 6, 2016 12:11 AM # 
No meant it's a waste going down it like I did.... Better a gradual downhill then a quick steep one?

I think you need to check out the elevation profile for some visual assistance...
Jun 6, 2016 11:25 AM # 
Yeah, what I said.
Jun 6, 2016 1:37 PM # 
Huh. Disabled elevation corrections on garmin connect and boom, 381m.

381 gain, 383 loss. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Science! (May be accounted for in my tri geek rubber leg collapse at the splash pad at the end. Not sure).
Jun 6, 2016 6:21 PM # 
Now turn on the "elevation embellishment" setting and, Bam!, your log will look just like Harps'.
Jun 6, 2016 6:59 PM # 
"super" size that elevation....dude
Jun 6, 2016 7:22 PM # 
How are you getting your GPS track into AP? If you bring it in directly from the watch (without Garmin Connect as the middleman), AP has its own elevation adjustment.
Jun 6, 2016 8:10 PM # 
I've done it via USB through the PC and via garmin connect on PC and on iPhone 6. But the setting I changed was in GC which have me the more "realistic" number. I think i have to import it again to correct on AP?

Part of the reason I haven't had one of these watches so far, aside from cost which is a big factor, is not being a fan of computer related mucking about.
Jun 6, 2016 8:38 PM # 
The initial mucking about with a GPS watch is annoying, then it's simple for a long time. Looks like you're off to a strong start.

When I had a Garmin, I didn't use Garmin Connect - only AP with the watch connected to my computer (either by cable or ANT). The first time I did it, I was prompted to download some small utility that made it possible. That brought the data from my watch directly into my AP log after the elevation gain went through AP's correction algorithm. If you don't have a barometric altimeter, things may be a bit out of whack but the correction algorithm attempts to improve it.

Since I haven't used a Garmin in 3 years, I should leave this for experts to comment on. If you ever have trouble, Attackpoint Ken has heard every question!

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