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in: O-ing; O-ing > 2016-06-15

Jun 18, 2016 8:30 AM # 
I voted last week and really struggled to find 6 parties worthy of getting one of my above- the-line preferences.
Jun 20, 2016 1:34 AM # 
I voted below the line and got up to 21. Quite happy to have my vote exhaust under the new system than go to any of the idiots. Thank goodness that the new system has elmininated the table-cloth sized senate sheet eh ?

Did quite like Malcolm Turnbull implying that everyone going to uni should have back grasp of science and maths. Maybe he could start with his cabinet and work backwards to school kids.
Jun 20, 2016 8:28 AM # 
Exhausting voters could mean that Fred Nile, backed by zealous happy clappers, gets to strut his stuff (by proxy) in Federal Parliament. Pretty much any of the other idiots would be better. So I hope your vote actually counts!
Jun 20, 2016 12:36 PM # 
Yep, it's kind of interesting getting to decide what your idiot threshold is. Having seen a parade of religious devotees through the last cabinets, I'm fed up to think that some portion of my vote could contribute to them being in place (at least in the senate). This way I can blame it on you. Unless of course the Official Happy Clapper Party gets up in NSW.
Jun 20, 2016 1:07 PM # 
At least you get to vote, our postal votes did not make it to Paris in time for Helen to bring them to Bordeaux this weekend, so we will miss the chance to put the WA losers last or just miss them off. Shame but flying to London or Paris to vote at the High Commission / Embassy is not really an option!
Jun 20, 2016 8:44 PM # 
I believe the fine for not voting is now $80 so you'll need to hit the Vin du Pays rather than the expensive stuff.
Jun 20, 2016 9:04 PM # 
We sent in a form to say we we were out of the country as we did not expect to get the postal votes in time - so hope that we do not have to fight the issue, or go to the high court
Jun 20, 2016 9:54 PM # 
AEC could organise another Senate re-run for when you get back, like last election ;P
Jun 20, 2016 11:30 PM # 
I usually fill out all the squares for the pleasure of putting some particularly odious party or candidate last, although it's going to be a difficult decision as to which particular flavour of racist is most deserving of my wooden spoon this year.

The Australian Liberty Alliance, Rise Up Australia and One Nation are all on the ballot in Victoria. The Australia - Love It or Leave Party aren't, and neither are the United Patriots Front, who didn't get their party registration through in time - presumably because filling out a party registration form requires the existence of at least one person associated with the party who can read and write.
Jun 21, 2016 4:05 AM # 
That's where I was at Blair, and I only got to 21 people I could vote for.
Jun 21, 2016 12:26 PM # 
The thing with exhausting your vote is that what you're doing is effectively ranking all other parties equal (to be more exact, you're lowering the quota and thus making it a bit easier for them to be elected on other people's votes). That's fine if you genuinely don't care which of them (if any) gets elected, not so much if you think the slightly-oddball-but-harmless micro party is a less awful prospect than the racists or the shooters (or, if you're coming from a right-wing perspective, your relative rankings of the Greens and the assorted leftover fragments of communism).

I've come across a few sites that have looked more closely at the various micro-parties and independents running in Victoria (one good one is here). Haven't come across anything similar for NSW yet but there's probably one out there (and of course most of the parties are common between the two states).
Jun 21, 2016 1:48 PM # 
I'm with Blair. I wouldn't be happy leaving Fred Nile (or whatever the equivalent in WA is) equal with all the others that I haven't put a number against. I just have to number every box to make sure that the FNs of this world actually do get my last preference (or should it be called non-preference?). And although it may mean nothing at all, I get a perverse pleasure out of reversing the order that the party's have listed their candidates in.
Jun 23, 2016 9:31 AM # 
^I used to do that, well other than the part where I spell the plural form of party with an apostrophe.

I'm wondering if it's a valid form of voting to tear my ballot paper into strips and only putting the candidates I want elected into the ballot box.

Actually this'll be the first election in many years that I haven't voted beforehand at the AEC office on the ground floor of the Paladin building (although it's not there anymore) - I mean the office, not the building.
Jun 23, 2016 12:05 PM # 
Don't think it is valid, although I once saw "Stick It Up John Howard's Arse" ruled as a valid "no" vote in a referendum on the grounds that the voter's intent was clear.

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