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Discussion: Nice Run!

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Jun 19, 2016 5:11 PM # 
2nd AG! Did you get a pie?

Looked for you at the finish....
Jun 19, 2016 7:43 PM # 
matzah ball:
had to make a dash for the portapotties, really pissed about my performance I guess. then drove out to chubb w/o much further ado. real runners dont get the pies:)
Jun 19, 2016 8:39 PM # 
Seems like a decent time- how does it compare for you?
Jun 19, 2016 9:34 PM # 
matzah ball:
prob 20sec faster than the last which could very well be attributed to the course. the mystery to me is where does -6 min pace go after 1 mile or -6:30 after 2 miles? the degradation curve is just too steep...esp. w a course like today that allowed for a good bit of downhill recovery
Jun 20, 2016 9:39 AM # 
Geez...for a guy in his mid-60's you're maintaining quite a pace! I hate to tell you what your pace will be in ten years!
Jun 20, 2016 11:38 AM # 
matzah ball:
Chi, your re-direction to humility and gratitude is well taken. Nonetheless, it seems one should strive to live up to ones current potential.
Jun 20, 2016 4:54 PM # 
matzah ball:
Anyway, the 74 yr old Missouri state 5k record is 24:48, by Joe Bell. That doesn't sound as totally ridiculous as the american record by John Keston (actually 75), 20:48, or the world record by Ed Whitlock, 18:21. You never know!
Jun 20, 2016 6:17 PM # 
guess i'm not a real runner.

2nd AG, 9th in 50-54, 11th in 45-49. Not much to complain about, be disappointed or angry with.

Since you feel you weren't living up to your potential, what was your goal time?
Jun 20, 2016 9:06 PM # 
matzah ball:
sorry, I kind of made that silly phrase up - in my defense some of the group members said they weren't taking theirs either. you could have had mine. next year we'll have to co-ordinate that. If you have space for all those pies.

ok, here's the thing. I can run 2 miles on a hilly course in low 6:3x (glendale firehouse 2.1) (and if I can run a 6 min mile why not 2 @6:20?) Would it be reasonable to expect that I could run 6:40 on a fast downhill course = 20:43?
Or even that I could hang on for 1 more mile @ 6:30 = 20:12? And then I'm just 4 seconds/mile off of 19:59 (6:26).

Well, no, according to JD Table 5.1 Vdot associated with running times. A 6:03 mile is consistent w/ a 12:55 2 mile, so close there. the big drop is to the 5k which should be 20:39. So maybe 20:39 is a reasonable time to shoot for w/ 5k-specific training. And realistically, my training has been focused on shorter distances. So maybe my time is not really that big of a head scratcher, though I think there is more to it than just the training. downhill course, so yeah, at least 30-40 seconds faster.

Perhaps w/ that 5k specific training, you can buy yourself a few seconds as well?

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