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Discussion: Training program

in: fletch; fletch > 2016-06-26

Jun 28, 2016 2:01 AM # 
Once a week for 3 weeks for your base phase, then up it to twice a week for 3 weeks, then a deadstop taper to allow for full recovery and freshening up?
Jun 28, 2016 2:12 AM # 
No Henry and no me at the state sprint champs should give you a cruisy run I should think. I don't know of any other orienteers in WA who are any good at the sport.
Jun 28, 2016 11:29 AM # 
@Tooms - running nearly every day, but only short and easy, for two weeks. (Depends on me finding the motivation to get up in the dark. Still missing so far).

Then adding in some fartlek a couple of times a week for two weeks (maybe some Sprint O for some of these).
Then two weeks of 'proper' intervals and sprint orienteering intervals on the local maps.
Then realise I'm broken with one week left.

Easy ;)

@tRicky - Craig, Cameron and Oliver should have no excuses, plus it looks like I probably won't be there, as my kids really do get back from Canberra the day before, so things might change and I might have to target the middle/long weekend instead. You don't need a base phase to run a long M21 race do you??
Jun 28, 2016 12:29 PM # 
You don't need a base phase to run a long M21 race do you??

And with one sentence, you're basically...Bryce.
Jun 28, 2016 12:46 PM # 
Except that even with no training, I will still navigate better than him ;)

And run faster.

And I actually have no realistic expectation of keeping my body in one piece with this approach, but it will be fun anyway :)

Did I mention that my two weeks of short easy runs includes a 10km race this weekend? That's short and easy right? If I don't go sub-41 minutes, I might re-evaluate my whole plan.
Jun 28, 2016 1:13 PM # 
Craig, Cameron and Oliver all picked the sprint event that I set to give them a chance to beat them. Typical.
Jun 28, 2016 1:42 PM # 

Depends what you count as navigate better :P
Jun 29, 2016 12:56 AM # 
More successfully. As in finding the treasure with maximum sustainable speed and minimal semi-optimal wanderings. You wouldn't understand.
Jun 29, 2016 1:01 AM # 
Orienteering is NOT a treasure hunt.
Jun 29, 2016 1:02 AM # 
You're a little treasure tRicky, really.
Jun 29, 2016 1:07 AM # 
People are always hunting for me.
Jun 29, 2016 5:24 AM # 
@bryce - ?? I reckon I've got the runs on the board in rogaines too if that's what you're implying?
Jun 29, 2016 5:43 AM # 
No I'm implying my navigation may be better than you think. Just because I don't run doesn't mean my navigation is worse than yours
Jun 29, 2016 9:04 AM # 
Your descriptions of how you get around an orienteering course in your leg by leg breakdown of each race says that your navigation is worse than mine ;)
Jun 29, 2016 9:14 AM # 
Tbt distance calculation often have me with shortest or near shortest leg. Data seems to contradict my commentary :)
Jun 29, 2016 9:20 AM # 
I'm with Fletch, all the way. Sorry brycec.
Jun 29, 2016 10:34 AM # 
I could be really rude and say 'anyone can walk in a straight line' but I'm very polite, so I won't.

And good luck using TBT to compare to me, given the huge number of races I've done since its inception.
Jun 29, 2016 11:57 AM # 
I wasn't comparing I was saying don't discount my navigation skills as they may be better than you realise.
Jun 29, 2016 12:09 PM # 
But this all started with me saying I would navigate better than you, and you replying with 'Depends what you count as navigate better.'
You also said 'Just because I don't run doesn't mean my navigation is worse than yours.'
These statements combined to lead me to the belief that we were comparing.
I never said you were bad... I said I was better. (How arrogant of me). I know what bad looks like. I taught orienteering to primary school students today. Some of them were bad. Happily my daughters were not.
Jun 29, 2016 12:57 PM # 
I'd have to say from a purely orienteering perspective, it's a combination of both speed and navigational ability that makes a good navigator. Since neither of you showed up at Garvey Park on the weekend, well I cannot compare you.
Jun 29, 2016 2:47 PM # 
Garvey Park was so awesome that it should be a crime against Fun to miss any Garvey Park O event :P
Jun 29, 2016 3:10 PM # 
Kinda my point I wasn't comparing I was saying it depends on what you classify as better navigation. i was after your criteria for that how do you say you are better at something which isn't defined. I agree with running because you beat me in all aspects of that. But navigation the skill itself isn't about speed (apart from how quick you can look at a map and determine your route accurately).

If we look at map memory, accuracy of travel, distance approximation... Etc. All the elements that make up navigation. Then (this is where comparison can start) I would think I would surprise a few people. Not saying I'm the best but the notion of "I'm better" when your judging on a metric mainly speed of travel which has less bearing on the task being judged is the point I'm raising.
Jun 29, 2016 11:59 PM # 
Popcorn! Get your popcorn here!
Jun 30, 2016 12:11 AM # 
Popcorn? I'm past there,,, isn't it about 5 posts away from throwing rotten fruit around?
Jun 30, 2016 12:17 AM # 
Popcorn and rotten fruit! Get your popcorn here! Free rotten fruit with every large popcorn!
Jun 30, 2016 3:07 AM # 
Instead of subdividing into little components in the navigational toolkit brycec searching for a teeny thing you might be good at e.g. measuring your distance travelled with a long retractable tape measure, I'd rather say that the broad outcome is the better measure - and I define the outcome as a successful completion of the orienteering course presented in reasonably quick intensity e.g. 85% of your maximal heart rate. :-)
Jun 30, 2016 9:21 AM # 
sorry tooms I am debating navigation ability - maybe you should check the definition you struggle with english often I know :)

the process or activity of accurately ascertaining one's position and planning and following a route.

funny there is nothing about heart rate or speed in that :P better go update the definition of what navigation is.
Jun 30, 2016 10:46 AM # 
Holy hell, that must be the first time Bryce has been to a dictionary.
Jun 30, 2016 10:59 AM # 
Obvious troll is obvious. Go take lessons from MrR, Bryce. :p
Jun 30, 2016 1:11 PM # 
well I had to get more obvious seeing as the first 15 posts where taken serious even after I started breaking it into components.
Jun 30, 2016 2:48 PM # 
I'm really good at touch typing. Especially the space bar. In fact, I think I'm the best at the space bar. Especially when I type with just with 2 fingers and quite slowly. Does that make me a better typist?
Jun 30, 2016 4:27 PM # 
Thats actually your lamest comeback ever because touch typing is actually judged by the speed in which you can type accurately. Let me just in my car and navigate I bet I will be faster than you running guess that makes me a better navigator.

and more over you are actually choking on the bait now?!
Jun 30, 2016 11:28 PM # 
:-) Same as navigating. Go look up a definition of 'typing' if you've bookmarked a dictionary - I'll be interested.
Jul 1, 2016 12:14 AM # 
I don't want to know what you're in your car.
Jul 1, 2016 1:17 AM # 
I don't know what's more hilarious - Bryce arguing about typing or Bryce arguing about navigation.
Jul 1, 2016 5:44 AM # 
It's the touching type in the car that has tRicky worried.
Jul 1, 2016 8:06 AM # 
Yeah go google how to be a good typist and how to be a good navigator. One is all about speed the other isnt
Jul 1, 2016 9:00 PM # 
How is the holiday Bryce. Getting any exercise other than typing?
Jul 2, 2016 6:06 AM # 
No I've been sick for the last week. England sucks. Will has had his first illness to and Emma has now go a cold. Now time for 24hrs travel again!

Yours looks like it's been more successful

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