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| # Posted 2007-10-01 15:17:30 | |
| Charlie: | Too bad you were too busy to run last weekend. Now those were some fine courses! |
| # Posted 2007-10-01 15:37:30 | |
| JHen: | Thanks, Charlie. From the logs I've read, it sure does seem that quite a few of us had trouble processing all the detail on that map. Fuzzy thinking and fuzzy eyesight combined to form a perfect storm of errors on my part. |
| # Posted 2007-10-01 17:22:06 | |
| cmorse: | But as Charlie said - those folks who consistently navigate well posted very respectable times. And I think the map was fine - I only had a couple minor quibbles with the mapping itself - its just for some reason I had a difficult time relating what I was seeing in the terrain to what the map suggested I should be seeing. the latter half of day 2 was actually going very smoothly (splits later) until I imploded on the penultimate control. And the first 90% of that leg was navigated very cleanly at very high speed as I had gotten ahead of a small train and was trying to get away from it. |
| # Posted 2007-10-01 17:28:36 | |
| skdewitt: | Yep. You weren't alone in having difficulties. I looked all over for your car yesterday to drop off your shirt but didn't find it. Also, Joe has a check from the last duo-O. Next time. |
| # Posted 2007-10-01 17:32:45 | |
| Charlie: | Green #6 on day 2 was the worst control I faced. Anytime you have 6 experienced orienteers beating the bushes in a rather confined area for 5-10 minutes, that smacks of poor course design. Looking at splits, I found that control in 7 minutes less than it took Scott Turner, but not because I did any better job of navigating, or had any idea of what feature on the map I should have been looking for. Sitting at my desk now with my glasses and a rather powerful magnifying glass, I can pick out the goofy little form line reentrant that it was supposed to be in. Not with just the glasses, though, and the so-called form-line spur in the yellow is what looks like a reentrant to me, and what I was looking for when I was there. I think putting controls on tiny form line features is just inappropriate. Yeah, the better guys always win, but there is no need to punish and humiliate the rest of us. |
| # Posted 2007-10-01 22:57:07 | |
| skdewitt: | What control code was #6 Charlie? If it was on green y or red, I'll look at it. |
| # Posted 2007-10-01 23:14:44 | |
| jjcote: | 970, which was not on GreenX or Red, but which was about 80 m south (and slightly west) of 901 (#8 on Red). When I was on my way to #8, I encountered a couple of Brown runners who were looking for it, and I believe that one of them, after finally finding it, felt that it was misplaced and DNFed. I also heard about others having trouble with this. I'm kind of thinking that maybe the large boulder directly west of it would have been a better choice. |
| # Posted 2007-10-02 08:26:05 | |
| walk: | 970 was GreenX #6 and also on Brown. For some reason I nailed it; only to lose all advantage plus lots more on the next leg. |
| # Posted 2007-10-02 17:28:11 | |
| Charlie: | The map was a good map in the sense of faithfully reproducing intricate detail, but not as good in terms of being an aid to navigation. With no disrespect intended to either mapper, I think a Clint Morse map of the same area would show far less detail (for example not having a place to put control 970), but Charlie could expect to navigate a course set on it at 11-12 min/k or better, as opposed to the 16-20 min/k I needed on the map we had. Both styles of mapping are good. For the visually acute elite, the map we had was challenging and a good time. For those of us operating at the edge of our visual resolution, not being able to figure out what kind of feature we are looking for is just not fun. |
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