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Aug 10, 2016 9:05 AM # 
Wikipedia to the rescue!

Egypt men's volleyball team qualified for the Olympics by attaining a top finish and securing a lone outright berth at the African Olympic Qualifying Tournament in Brazzaville, Republic of the Congo.

The Canada-Australia thing will be referring to the World Qualification spots, where Australia finished just behind Canadia.
Aug 10, 2016 9:21 AM # 
Weird, they must have meant they've never won an Olympic match.

I thought maybe their beach volleyball team qualified by having the most creative uniform.
Aug 10, 2016 9:54 AM # 
Sports development; it's like how IOF lets competitors from countries such as Egypt and Ecuador run at WOC.
Aug 10, 2016 9:58 AM # 
Beach volleyball has been great - but the indoor is spectacular eg Canada vs Brasil today and a couple of the women's matches are fantastic to watch.
Aug 10, 2016 10:06 AM # 
Yep, it's good C7 has finally bothered to put on sports that don't feature Australia although for some reason right now all I've got is yet another replay of the Aus women's rugby match from Monday night.

It's probably lucky for us in a way that the time difference means we get live stuff from around 7pm so up until I go to bed and then in the morning until around 11am otherwise I wouldn't do anything all day. Heaven help me when the Olympics are in Tokyo on the same timezone as us! Mind you, I'll probably be employed by then and won't be able to watch it anyway.
Aug 10, 2016 10:08 AM # 
Shouldn't that sport be in the Commonwealth Games instead?
Aug 10, 2016 10:09 AM # 
It's the first time in the Olympics. It's been in the Commonwealth Games for ages. Are you arguing for orienteering's inclusion over rugby ;-)
Aug 10, 2016 10:13 AM # 
MTBO, maybe.
Aug 10, 2016 10:57 AM # 
Well if MTBO ever became an Olympic sport, I'd probably never get to go to WMTBOC anymore because of all the good riders that suddenly became interested in it!
Aug 10, 2016 11:52 AM # 
Interested doesn't equal competence.
Aug 10, 2016 11:57 AM # 
My timing with telecast isn't too bad . With 3 available streams there is plenty of option to get some alternate sports and some I won't watch. And if desperate can follow through for the inevitable replays. A bit wet today for cycling - hope no crashes.
Aug 10, 2016 2:17 PM # 
I reckon if some fast MTB types took an interest in the sport because of its higher profile (and they could get past the non-zooming around a circuit component), they'd probably pick it up pretty quickly. It's basically the Anton principle of black = fast.

I also notice in addition to the uniform required in the beach volleyball there's a mandatory teammate hand pat after each point loss and a hand pat and hug for each win.

The only sports I really try and avoid during the Olympic telecast are dressage, basketball (unless there's really nothing else on), artistic or rhythmic gymnastics (whichever one involves all the prancing around), synchronised swimming, tennis and probably add golf to the list this year.
Aug 10, 2016 10:50 PM # 
My order is (NOT to watch): boxing, weightlifting, basketball (men - very boring; the court has become too small; there is little thought just thump, thump hang off the ring..repeat) but women's is much better.; the prancing bits and twirls of hands etc.
Parochial with shooting, archery, water polo, swimming, otherwise no.
Will watch volleyball anytime, any team, cycling track or road - fell in love with pursuit at Comm Games in Auckland.

Back to it!
Aug 11, 2016 2:27 AM # 
Well I see C7 still can't resist with the Aussies. Aus gold and suddenly the next swim final is abandoned in favour of putting together a guff piece on the gold medalist. I reckon the only reason they went back to the swimming was because there was another Aussie in the second semi!
Aug 11, 2016 10:32 AM # 
Oh my god right now I have basketball, gymnastics or golf... WHAT TO WATCH!!!!!
Aug 11, 2016 11:38 AM # 
Taking this slightly off-topic, but Egypt and Ecuador both had people who got not-embarrassing results at the last World Military Champs so it's a bit of a puzzle as to why their representatives at WOC were so completely useless.
Aug 11, 2016 11:51 AM # 
I avoid all the subjective sports (the ones that have judges) and all the ones that originated in the good Ol' USA because (I guess due to endemic low attention span) they are all stop-stop-start-stop-start-stop. Much worse than cricket!
Aug 11, 2016 1:00 PM # 
Yeah I tend to avoid the judgy sports too.

Blair, I had not-embarrassing results in Vic and NSW a few months back so why was I so completely useless at WOC :-) (well the long distance I was okay) Maybe something to do with the higher standard of competition.
Aug 11, 2016 2:33 PM # 
What about water polo, Simmo? It's stop-start / is it American?
Aug 11, 2016 2:42 PM # 
Actually any sport in which you can't tell the country of the athlete because of their lack of uniform (e.g. golf, tennis...) shouldn't be allowed due to the unpatriotic nature of the players!
Aug 11, 2016 2:45 PM # 
What about the Indian hockey players who were invisible?
Aug 11, 2016 3:05 PM # 
They must have appeared once unless it was an Aussie own goal.
Aug 12, 2016 12:22 AM # 
At the top end, the fields at World Military Champs are world-class (Matthias Kyburz won the long distance last year) - in countries like Switzerland where all able-bodied men are in the reserves, they can choose basically a full-strength national team.
Aug 13, 2016 10:44 AM # 
I forgot my most hated one - duck walking.
Aug 13, 2016 11:32 AM # 
Take that back, nothing, absolutely NOTHING is as bad as channel bloody 7's coverage.
Aug 14, 2016 3:27 AM # 
Channel 9's??
Aug 17, 2016 3:12 AM # 
Simmo has a point about the basketball. I've lost track of the number of games I've seen the end of during the Olympics where one team will be down by 4-6 points with ten seconds to go and feel the need for a time out as if some magical play involving scoring a 'basket', fouling the other team, having them miss then scoring another basket will win it for them. I've yet to see this pay off for any of them and yet we're subject to countless timeout sirens for the team to discuss it.
Aug 17, 2016 8:03 AM # 
It paid off for Russia in the Olympic Final before you guys were born. Wikipedia to the rescue yet again!
Aug 17, 2016 8:18 AM # 
Well actually they only required two points to win, plus I think you'll find they were the Soviet Union, not Russia. Also I've never seen a more detailed write up for such a pointless event, other than the IOF rules for orienteering.
Aug 17, 2016 10:19 AM # 
Re water polo Tooms, I wouldn't mind betting that the original rules didn't have a timeout rule until the good 'ol USA started playing.

I found (in Wiki, where else?) a list of sports with a timeout rule, and they are all of North American origin except for cricket (a recent intro only in T20), handball and water polo.

Just can't figure out why timeouts or stopped clocks are needed, except for injuries. Imagine a timeout in the 100 metres, diving, gymnastics, soccer, AFL (bad enough that they stop the clock for a mark, free, goal or point) or, dare I say it, Orienteering.

Timeouts are in my view purely a tactical trick to play on the opposition periodically in order to gain an advantage. Not sporting at all.
Aug 17, 2016 10:36 AM # 
I am actually reasonably sure that timeouts where introduced for advertising (for the north american sports). So that they knew they would have extra stoppages in play in which all TV's can cut to commercials or they can play commercials at the ground... people can go get food and drink - its more the commercialism of the sport rather than tactics as much as the team would like to think its about tactical advantage.
Aug 17, 2016 10:37 AM # 
100m, diving, gymnastics are individual sports with short duration performances, gymnasts and divers have ample opportunity for coaching between dives / events. AFL has runners that convey coaches messages onto the field. The field is very large, which allows for this. In basketball, the court is too small and the action can move from one end to the other in a couple of seconds. Players are constantly involved in the play, hence coordinating changes in team structure from the side of the court is difficult.
Soccer - if they need a 'time-out' soneone just falls over and rolls around holding their knee / shin / ankle / face for a few minutes while someone else talks to the coach.
Water polo is stop start because of the number of fouls committed, not the time-outs.
Orienteering is a continuous sport with no breaks in 'play'
I get why you don't like time-outs, but the sports you've chosen fot comparison seem an odd selection.
Aug 17, 2016 11:06 AM # 
Quarter & half time is when you go to get food and drinks, not during time outs. It's best to go when there are hundreds of others lined up so you can complain about the queues.
Aug 17, 2016 11:18 AM # 
tRicky - how many people live at your house? We rarely have a queue here.
Aug 17, 2016 1:40 PM # 
The cats here are very aggressive at dinner time.
Aug 17, 2016 9:46 PM # 
Well Chitty Killer is doing a fine job!
Aug 18, 2016 11:35 AM # 
Choose today's memorable moment:

Blue: Channel 7 showing a replay of the Croatia v Serbia basketball match this morning rather than the live women's beach volleyball gold medal match, which they did eventually cross to towards the end of the first set only after (and I swear this is true) the ten fouls* handed out within the final 27 seconds of the basketball, all of which involved free throws.

Red: Channel 7 doing a 'live cross' to the 100m hurdles from the women's long jump final, which they'd already wrapped up on 7TWO.

Green: The three 7 channels showing replays of the Australia v Lithuania basketball match, horse jumping and WTF the Croatia v Serbia basketball this evening rather than the LIVE GOLF MATCH that's on right now. Okay so I don't care about the golf but Duncan assures me that people do watch it.

*It may have been eight but it seemed like a lot more
Aug 18, 2016 11:46 AM # 
I'd watch golf if they released weasels to run up the golfers trousers to bite them mid-swing.... :P That would be amusing.
Aug 18, 2016 11:54 AM # 
Just watched the replay of the replay and it was nine fouls, with no fewer than three players being fouled out of the game. That would have been amusing if it had gone into extra time!
Aug 18, 2016 4:21 PM # 
Kitty just imposed a penalty on me for breaking curfew. I'm no longer allowed to watch Olympic sports from 2am to 8am and I'm banned from the closing ceremony, shame.
Aug 18, 2016 10:35 PM # 
Rules are rules!
Aug 18, 2016 11:40 PM # 
It always amuses me when the commentators say something like 'There's a Pole in this event'. At least we know the other athletes will have good support!
Aug 19, 2016 8:55 AM # 
That Croatia Serbia finish was a joke! Refs could have stopped it by calling one of the first ones intentional. None of them were very subtle.
Aug 19, 2016 10:25 AM # 
Maybe there's more to it than what hits the media, but Ms Chiller gives the distinct impression of being part of that breed of sporting officials who consider themselves to be considerably more important than the athletes they're responsible for (swimming used to be notorious for these). If I ever look like becoming one of those it will be time for someone to encourage me to resign.
Aug 19, 2016 11:15 AM # 
Athletics officials in 1950s-1970s also.
Aug 20, 2016 12:46 AM # 
C7 has some pretty liberal interpretations. Watching a snippet of the pole vault on 7 the backup commentator says 'You can watch this live and uninterrupted on 7TWO'. Err, no actually I'm only watching 7 because there's a commercial on 7TWO at the moment but I guess that must be part of the broadcast.

In fact I didn't even know what the Greek competitor looked like for a while because they kept going to ads during her vaults.
Aug 20, 2016 3:13 AM # 
Uninterrupted just means they won't switch to another sport in the middle of it. They were more than happy to broadcast the bits of the pole vault where they were standing around waiting for a medal presentation to finish...
Aug 20, 2016 3:19 AM # 
Yeah I saw that but if you think about it, it's the only time we'll see a medal presentation that doesn't involve either an Australian or Usain Bolt.
Aug 21, 2016 3:12 PM # 
The gymnastics team synchronised routines are pretty impressive although the gymnasts themselves are pretty scary looking. The Russian team was so synchronised that their team members even took on the same names - Vera, Anastasia, Anastasia, Anastasia & Maria.

About the only rule I understand with the handball is that you have to fall over whilst taking a shot on goal otherwise it doesn't count.

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