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in: blairtrewin; blairtrewin > 2016-08-26

Aug 26, 2016 8:37 PM # 
were terribly boring. Absolutely no funny business whatsoever.
Aug 27, 2016 12:04 AM # 
I was a counter at the Federal election a few weeks back but only noticed one vote for Trump.

When will the middle distance make its way into WMOC?
Aug 27, 2016 5:10 AM # 
I think both the Latvians (2019) and the Danes (2018) expressed willingness to have the new program, and it would be set from 2020 on.
Aug 27, 2016 9:22 AM # 
Aww, that's no fun :( I like having 2 long qualifiers!
Aug 27, 2016 11:21 AM # 
Where is that written? I just saw the introduction of a middle distance!
Aug 27, 2016 12:38 PM # 
Was the vote to not having equal winning times close? Who was against it? How did we vote Blair? Bit antiquated really - women actually run longer in marathon events...
Aug 27, 2016 2:17 PM # 
Seems like the tennis argument won: "the idea was put forward that the status of the medallists is already seen as equal today, despite the different time lengths of the courses, and subsequently the object of equality is already achieved."
Aug 27, 2016 10:08 PM # 
So what happens next - are the "discipline commissions of the IOF" now free to decide how long the women's race is without having to change the length of the mens race. Specifically, can they just change the W21 long winning time to 90-100 minutes without silly arguments about whether that's the right type of gender parity?
Aug 28, 2016 5:59 AM # 
The vote was 21-10. From the discussion, there are a few dinosaurs still out there, but I think most of the votes against were largely motivated by what countries say as their self-interest with respect to the strengths of the runners they have now. (As the saying goes, "always back self-interest - it's the one horse that you know is trying").

The process is interesting because this did not need to go to the General Assembly and Sweden must now be regretting taking that route. Whilst, in formal terms, Council (taking advice from the Commissions) can ignore this vote and make its own decision, realistically, now that the General Assembly has stated its position, there is not really a mandate to reverse that without another General Assembly vote.
Aug 28, 2016 9:31 AM # 
Did I miss the point? I thought you said that the motion for longer womens course was withdrawn, and the section on enforcing an "equal-time" interpretation of gender parity defeated in favour of an "equal respect" interpretation.

If the GA didn't vote against 90-100 winning time for women, or even at 86:24 :), surely that's an option?
Aug 29, 2016 4:51 PM # 
How did the US vote on this?
Aug 29, 2016 5:13 PM # 
We voted in favor and spoke in favor.
Aug 29, 2016 6:04 PM # 
Good for us. Who was our spokesperson?
Aug 29, 2016 6:47 PM # 
Glen and I were the delegates for the US. I attempted to say something coherent on this issue. I think I was still annoyed at the comments from the council/vice-presidents composition vote.
Aug 30, 2016 8:02 AM # 
Sounds like all the countries outside of Europe voted for it.

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