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Discussion: Results Index

in: Joshosh; Joshosh > 2016-09-20

Sep 21, 2016 9:24 AM # 
I'm not sure it tells you that much. The assumption I see is that when you add more people to the race the average ability stays the same but I don't think that is true. At the same time I don't know what you are trying to measure!

Single metrics to judge an orienteering performance are tough.
Sep 21, 2016 9:28 AM # 
Ya it doesnt take into account ability, like a ranking of sorts. Just looking at trying to compare each race to another based on the result.
Sep 21, 2016 9:31 AM # 
It'd be interesting to see if there is a correlation between SR and RI, though that may depend on the area in general.
Or alternatively, how you felt about the race and how that compares to the RI?
Sep 21, 2016 9:34 AM # 
Ah like if a lower SR equates to a better RI value
Sep 21, 2016 9:40 AM # 
Yeah exactly. It could be interesting for Finland where straight is mostly the best option. May not be so relevant where "around" route choices are beneficial.
Sep 21, 2016 9:55 AM # 
Any thoughts on how to do a comparison? Or just do a simple True or False where the lower SR value equates (or not) to the better RI value?
Sep 21, 2016 12:16 PM # 
It would help a lot if you get an SR figure for everyone else in the field
Sep 21, 2016 12:22 PM # 
I was thinking about jut plotting them against each other but looking at your data they are pretty uncorrelated to be honest.

@ColmM that'd be nice alright
Sep 21, 2016 12:27 PM # 
I ran a correlation calculation in excel based on the values I have there and it returned a value of 0.51, so no real correlation.

@ColmM, could probably extract values from routegadget but that still wouldnt get the routes for every individual, the event in Surmajärvi has only 7 routes on the B-rata.
Sep 21, 2016 1:03 PM # 
7 routes isn't bad actually, that could get you something.

Hard to see there being as good a correlation between your own races, because assumbaly the compertition is different at each race + the terrain / course Is different and may require more or less direct routes. However you never know.

Comparing people on the same course is more likely to give a better indication I would imagine? It still doesn't take into account how fast a runner is, but how short their distance is would usually be a good indicator of their technical competence, especially in a place like Finland I imagine.
So could be interesting to try the 7 runners, but could still mightn't be of use as it doesn't account for physical differences
Sep 22, 2016 8:39 AM # 
A little project for those long winter evenings maybe!
Sep 22, 2016 10:48 AM # 
How long are you in Finland for?
Sep 22, 2016 11:02 AM # 
Not really sure, depends on the job finding situation. Will be back out to meet up with LS-37 to do 25manna though in Sweden
Sep 22, 2016 12:18 PM # 
Woo 25manna. See you there!
Sep 22, 2016 3:45 PM # 
LS-37's 2nd team will need to run really well to account for me! Maybe the fast kids from the suunnistuskoulu will save it!

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