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Discussion: Watching 10MILA in English

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Oct 6, 2016 6:14 PM # 
BorisGr:
Hi AP!

An informal poll: if you don't normally tune in to watch 10MILA (Sweden's biggest orienteering relay), would you consider tuning in if there was an English-language stream available?
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Oct 6, 2016 6:19 PM # 
iansmith:
YES. But only if Boris were commentating.
Oct 6, 2016 6:36 PM # 
Suzanne:
What Ian said :). Even better if it is a Boris & Alli team broadcast.
Oct 6, 2016 6:37 PM # 
Hammer:
The large Scandi relays are the best coverage orienteering has to show off the size of the sport, the athleticism, the club rivalries and more. As a coach of a large junior program having the opportunity to show this live to some of our top juniors while allowing them to follow along in english is good for motivation, inspiration and preparation. We try and arrange live streaming parties already but the lack of english shortens the attention span rather quickly for many of them because it is hard to keep track of who is "skipping along" the best.

So yeah what Ian said
Oct 6, 2016 6:43 PM # 
Sandy:
Yes.
Oct 6, 2016 6:53 PM # 
Rosstopher:
I do normally watch, but I would be more active in getting my friends to follow along if there was a good English commentary to go along.
Oct 6, 2016 7:39 PM # 
bubo:
I guess I´ll have to tune in the English version this year ;-)
Oct 6, 2016 7:40 PM # 
ndobbs:
Boris vs Per. Why would you do that to us?
Oct 7, 2016 6:07 AM # 
Terje Mathisen:
As you all know, the best way to follow Tiomila or Jukola is to be on-site watching the big screen and listening to the speakers. Second best is to do the same with the TV broadcast, possibly using a VPN to access the feed.

Third best is to be there and participate: When you run one of the later legs you pretty much have to sleep away significant parts of the relay, but OTOH you get the experience of running (particularly on Jukola) really interesting courses with people all over the place and long strings of headlamps between the forked sections.

If you have to pick one of them I would have to go for Jukola. This is something every orienteer _has_ to do at least once in their lifetime. Personally I have two highlights from that relay:

1) Running the second leg in 1985, passing half of the 50 teams in front of me and gaining 4 minutes on the leaders. We went on to win one of the top-25 prices that year with a team consisting completely of guys who had grown up together in a small Norwegian (25K people) town.

2) In 2012 I turned 55, when I arrived at the arena our coach told me that due to some illness in the teams I would have to run the longest night leg (15+ km). This would be my first time ever to do this in either Tio or Jukola, so I was very scared of bonking, but it went very well except for a "small" 8-minute wobble on the first (slightly misplaced as the GPS tracking from that year clearly shows) control.

Anyway, if you cannot get an English feed, try to get someone bilingual to translate the most important stuff!
Oct 7, 2016 3:56 PM # 
cmpbllv:
Yes if in English, and at least doubly so if Boris is the commentator!
Oct 8, 2016 11:46 AM # 
lady00shalott:
Just to clarify: there are discussions about whether it is financially beneficial (or even viable) for the 10mila organizers to add a dedicated English commentary for this year's event. Even if your answer has been expressed by someone else on his thread, it would be helpful to get an accurate representation of how many people would tune in.
Oct 8, 2016 3:13 PM # 
ken:
I haven't usually paid for the live stream for 10Mila, but I would if English were an option.
Oct 8, 2016 3:34 PM # 
bubo:
I would follow the English broadcast (depending on company) since I'll be following from NZE due to World Masters Games. This will be a first time ever to follow from afar after being on site for 50 straight years.
Oct 11, 2016 11:20 AM # 
Bruce:
Yes. We would be keen to watch an English broadcast in Australia.
Oct 11, 2016 11:36 AM # 
wilsmith:
We would happily pay to watch English coverage (though Swedish seems popular in our house too)
Oct 11, 2016 12:20 PM # 
Psuba:
Yes.
Oct 11, 2016 12:22 PM # 
Nev-Monster:
For sure. Might even ask people if they'd be interested in an O and Trail running podcast....
Mar 20, 2017 2:39 AM # 
DanielR:
Time to bump this thread.

10MILA 2017, which takes place in Partille just outside Gothenburg at the west coast of Sweden the weekend 29th-30th of April, will be broadcast as web TV.
And as organizers we are very pleased to announce that we actually will actually broadcast 3 different streams this years, in Swedish, in Finnish and one separate stream in English.
And connecting to the first posts in this thread we are a bit proud to tell you that the English commentary will be provided by Boris Granovskiy, who will team up with Mark Nixon.

For those who prefer Swedish we will have the same team as in Falun 2016 (Per Forsberg, Fredrik Löwegren and Anneli Östberg) and in Finnish Annti Örn and Annika Björk. Much of the production team are the same as 10MILA in Falun and we are, of course, aiming to take the best bits from their production and make it even better :)

Sign up at:
https://webbtv.10mila.se/
The fee for this is the same as last year, 150 SEK
regards
Daniel Robertsson
Responsible for "Arena Production" 10MILA 2017
Mar 20, 2017 4:22 AM # 
cedarcreek:
Great news! Definitely will be purchasing this one.
Mar 20, 2017 10:40 AM # 
Terje Mathisen:
This is very good!

I probably won't pay though, since I intend to run this year. :-)

My club, Nydalens SK, have decided to send a proper old boys team this year, we have 15 H50+ guys signed up so the hardest part should be to figure out who gets to run, and which leg they get. I did well on the night race last week so I hope I'll make the team.

I have done Jukola many times since I passed 50 but my last Tiomila must have been before 1990 so I really look forward to this one. I'm H60 now so this seems like a good way to celebrate, right?

BTW, as of the last update, it looks like we'll have 4 mens teams, 8 women and 7 youngsters, so we'll be one of the largest clubs this year and not just the one with the oldest single team. :-)
Mar 20, 2017 10:47 AM # 
bubo:
Looking forward to it and would love to follow as much as possible.
Anyone in the Auckland region that´s willing to host a Tiomila party?
Mar 21, 2017 8:51 AM # 
TheInvisibleLog:
OK, I have a team to barrack for... the old guys.
Mar 23, 2017 6:33 AM # 
Terje Mathisen:
Thank you for that, TheInvisibleLog, I'll try to post a link to the online tracking of our team when that's available. :-)
Apr 24, 2017 10:47 AM # 
DanielR:
The Event center i starting to become ready. A pretty tight arena with a slope that will serve as good natural stands.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17834162_1...

If it's not already decided out in the forrest, it will be when the last leg runners get to the last bend in the finish.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17966377_1...

Don't miss out on the action, sign up for the broadast at webbtv.10mila.se
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DXlrhV92yY
Apr 26, 2017 12:23 PM # 
BorisGr:
One more reminder that you can watch Tiomila in English this year! We hope to make it a great experience for the viewers. Tell your clubmates, invite your friends, and have an all-day viewing party!

Sign up at webbtv.10mila.se .
Apr 26, 2017 4:23 PM # 
iansmith:
@BorisGr: will you have data about how many users watched the English stream after the event?
Apr 26, 2017 6:29 PM # 
BorisGr:
I think so, yes.
Apr 27, 2017 3:36 PM # 
tommig:
Very happy to see that Finnish is still supported, have already paid and cannot wait....!
Apr 29, 2017 6:02 AM # 
coach:
Is there any way to sign up and record ? We would love to watch this on the flight across the Pacific and the US.
Apr 29, 2017 8:08 AM # 
BorisGr:
I think it will be available for free afterwards.
Apr 29, 2017 12:01 PM # 
Hammer:
A few technical difficulties at the TV control but Mark and Boris are doing a great job covering this race in english.
Apr 29, 2017 1:41 PM # 
j-man:
This is great!
Apr 29, 2017 1:58 PM # 
ken:
We are watching here. Really great job so far. It feels a bit like Le Tour with the British/American combo.

Also, shouldn't it be raining or snowing? This weather is too nice.
Apr 29, 2017 2:59 PM # 
iansmith:
Amazing commentary!
Apr 29, 2017 3:38 PM # 
cii00me9:
Great job so far Borya!
Apr 29, 2017 11:15 PM # 
igor_:
Really enjoying the commentary guys.
Apr 30, 2017 3:49 AM # 
iansmith:
Nixon's reaction to the mistakes is savage and hilarious.
Apr 30, 2017 4:35 AM # 
cedarcreek:
Very impressed! It's much different when you can understand the announcers!
May 1, 2017 9:06 AM # 
Psuba:
English commentary was very good, including the approach to summarise the Sweedish interviews in English afterwards, and dragging people into the studio to interview in English directly, much appreciated.

Couldn't stay up all night but as the "pause" function seemed to have worked, paused it 1/3rd of the way through and decided to go to sleep and press "play" once I am awake to make it kinda live but in the morning. Woke up to see the coverage running live and the top teams already finished - and the replay that is available seems to only cover what happened after the top teams have finished, so unfortunately missed the meaty part of the race in the end :(
May 1, 2017 2:30 PM # 
ken:
We ran into that same problem, and missed the final hour or so. I was really hoping to hear whether Boris went nuts during the battle for 2nd.

You can at least re-watch the meaty part on the Swedish or Finnish feed, those go back to leg 2. I'd guess the English one had to be restarted for some reason, maybe the organizers could provide a separate link to the earlier parts.
May 1, 2017 2:54 PM # 
BorisGr:
I will see if the production team can get the entire English feed up on YouTube.
May 1, 2017 6:57 PM # 
tunapeter:
We did not do any restart, but we've also noticed that a lot of video is missing from the replay and have filed a supportticket for that to LiveStream Inc.

Unfortunatly, to fix the cracking-sound problem we had to rip away some gear from one of our taping-machines, so i'm not sure I'll be able to find all the missing video and be able to upload it. I'll dig on all harddrives here and see what I found.

I really hope you enjoyed watching 10mila! I'm pretty certain that we made a trend-change this year and will be able to provide english commentary from now on.

Peter Löfås
Producer, 10MILA TV 2016-2017
May 2, 2017 7:49 AM # 
tunapeter:
I managed to find the lost videos :-)

Here you have them until they are uploaded to YouTube later...

https://livestream.com/10mila/events/7147388
May 2, 2017 11:16 AM # 
Terje Mathisen:
I don't have the GPS tracking for the rest of the guys yet, but here is at least my own 3rd leg on the NSK Old Boys team:

https://tmsw.no/qr/show_map.php?user=terjem&ma...

We finished as #160: Our first runner changed over as #225 or so, then we gained places on every leg except for a couple of very small losses near the end.

I haven't run Tiomila in several decades now, it was great to be back, but Jukola is still my current favorite. :-)

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