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in: Klepperton; Klepperton > 2016-11-13

Nov 14, 2016 5:39 PM # 
All the hard work on the maps goes to Meghan! She was up to 5am a few days before the race making the maps look extra special. Of course the original ocad drawing was pretty sweet too. I wonder who did that? ;-)

Glad you enjoyed the course. Not much route choice and limited with so little space but like I said in the race briefing you only crossed three roads between the start and the last control. That is pretty incredible when you think you ran through a large city.

Time for a "Raid the 6ix Hour"
Nov 14, 2016 7:09 PM # 
Up on the paved section of walk the line I saw a guy with a with a compass on a clipboard and tracing paper; looked to be mapping?!? Any knowledge of who or what he was up to? I debated waving my map and letting him know that it''s already been done.

Klepperton let'a chat and make Raid the 6ix a reality within a year or two. I've certainly got some good ideas for routes and between the two of us we could split the mapping and avoid Requests of TOC.
Nov 14, 2016 8:44 PM # 
@Bender: That is too funny. All of the King's Forest is being completely re-mapped at the moment so you probably saw our mapper. We had hoped to have more of the new map available for this year's race but the 'heritage' maps were fine.
Nov 14, 2016 8:46 PM # 
Ya man. It's a must.

There are so many permutations with how we can go about course setting - it's very exciting.

I'd love to chat about it.

...and great racing yesterday! You looking very strong and smooth out there. Nice one!
Nov 14, 2016 10:02 PM # 
Hmm where would you think in TO? The Don?
Nov 14, 2016 11:29 PM # 
If it were a similar framework to Raid The Hammer, (in distance and discipline), I think only a portion of the west side of the Don and its tributaries/parkland is needed.

If it's a 6 hour thing...

Humber to the Don, 401 to the lake. Cycling, limited select TTC usage...(or not).

A real son of a bitch of a race.

...simple logistics. ;)
Nov 14, 2016 11:54 PM # 
I would avoid the bikes and stick to being on foot and either go point-to-point OR
allow use of transit and make it 6ix hours.

What time of year is best? We have a raid in each season except the summer.
Nov 15, 2016 12:02 AM # 
Yeah, I second Hammer, and would just make it a running race, avoiding TTC. Can you imagine how pissed you'd be sitting on a bus in the middle of the race when the driver randomly goes into Timmys?

How about Toronto's Toughest Half Marathon with distance of about 21km.
Nov 15, 2016 12:17 AM # 
I was thinking west Don and tributaries. Can start up at York University (Bayview campus) and work south. Target Brickworks for finish where there are facilities and good coffee. Plus great opportunities for finish line penalty loop spectating.

TOC held a 8 or 10hr rogaine style event a few years ago in mid October. Was a good time of year as the summers can be oppressive in the city temperature wise. Or aim for the other shoulder of May ...maybe pushing into June.
Nov 15, 2016 12:21 AM # 
I prefer to avoid bikes as was just a mention.

TTC (strictly subway, 1x one-way trip...or some other restriction), on the other hand has the potential to be a pretty cool wildcard for route choice...and yes, for a 6 hour race.

Then again, it's not essential for a 6 hour race either.

It's just a gimmick to appeal to the masses, but might end up being crucial in its use to win the race.
Nov 15, 2016 12:29 AM # 
I did the ARC 24 urban many years ago and we took the TTC. The one-ride one-way option is a good idea.

the advantage of a six hour ending at brickworks is that all finish at same time so a good post race atmosphere.

Is Feb too cold? Limited competition.
Nov 15, 2016 12:29 AM # 
I enjoy the 'grand' ideas, but maybe that's something to work towards in the future.

Bender's framework makes a lot of sense. Brickworks is a dream finish area. 20-30km. RTH-style race.
Nov 15, 2016 12:36 AM # 
February is unfortunately terrible. (Sloppy and/or frigid...especially in the Don).

May/June might be the only option.
Nov 15, 2016 12:48 AM # 
I like the June idea! So one thing that actually might work really well is to have the course essentially be the same each year (i.e., the loop and some trail sections) except that the actual CP locations change. Full Raid starts and finishes at Brickworks. Go north to Taylor creek and a short in and out of there. then up east side of DVP in those cool single track trails (sauriol? park) to lawrence then urban over to the aid station at the (highest swag and prize providing sponsor) store at Don Mills centre (i'm talking to you Salomon) then into Sunnybrook and over to Glendale and back south past Sci centre and to brickworks with penalty loop options. Point to Point race but with a 6ix hour time limit and half raid starts at Salomon store (or best sponsor).

Keep the loop the same but switch up the Cps each year???
Nov 15, 2016 2:13 PM # 
Swim from cherry beach to the island for the clothing optional CP at Hanlan's point.... I can't believe you guys haven't said this one yet.
Nov 15, 2016 2:31 PM # 
Nov 15, 2016 4:11 PM # 
Don't worry Mick, we're secretly planning a clothing optional, multi-discipline event, which includes wakeboards, a booze cruise, and a dance off... It's all about being inclusive.

Nevermind though, Hanlon's is a gem...I frequently visit, but now a little further north with Anabel. ;)

It used to be one of my go to's to bring a date!!
Nov 15, 2016 4:51 PM # 
Man that sounds pervy...never on a first date, but definitely early on-ish in a relationship.

I guess it was a pretty ballsy move. ;)

(...had to add that.)
Nov 16, 2016 3:21 AM # 
I guess it worked out, if it wasn't a last date.
Nov 16, 2016 5:51 PM # 
The TO Islands aren't too far from the start of the Don Valley. Could be a pretty amazing Matrix portion of a race.

I wonder how much it would be to hire one or two of those water taxis to constantly shuttle teams back and forth.

Also: Major O Sprint race on that map please.
Nov 19, 2016 2:47 PM # 
Thanh and I had our wedding reception at the Rectory Cafe on Ward's Island. In order to shuttle people back to the city at the end of the night, (ferry service ended before the party ended), we had two boats shlep our drunk asses back...for a minimal cost. It was a friend of a friend and I'm not sure if he is still around.

I think it would be a little much to have a portion of a race over there though. Maybe if it was a multi-discipline race with kayaks. Logistically, still a bit of a mission.

But ya, two micro-sprints and a sprint proper? (With food and libations, and a convivial atmosphere)... Giddy up!

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