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Discussion: Well-organised comrades

in: tRicky; tRicky > 2017-02-20

Feb 20, 2017 8:47 PM # 
blairtrewin:
Whatever else you can say for Labor, they're usually pretty efficient at getting people on the ground in any remotely winnable seat. Any sign of any other parties?

On a vaguely related theme (in my mind because I'm currently overseas) is when people try to get your support for elections which you're not eligible to vote in. This is particularly ironic when the people trying to press literature into your hand are campaigning on behalf of parties whose principal platform is to kick foreigners out of their country.
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Feb 20, 2017 11:01 PM # 
tRicky:
Yeah the Liberals showed up shorty afterwards - before voting officially opened - and the Greens were there for at least the second half of the day (I didn't notice when their reps showed up).

I read a letter in last week's paper from someone stating something along the lines of party preferences being somewhat irrelevant because we are able to make up our own minds over the numbering order but based on my two experiences of election work, there are a *very* high proportion of people that just follow the 'how to vote cards', particularly highlighted yesterday from people outside of the two nearby electorates that didn't know who to number (after #1) because there were no cards available!

On a related note and partly related to the other thread in my log, I did manage to drop the term "envelopised" into my spiel with one voter although without any noticeable reaction.
Feb 20, 2017 11:10 PM # 
jennycas:
Might have got more of a reaction if you'd been envelopised in a high-vis vest.
Feb 20, 2017 11:12 PM # 
tRicky:
I was in a vest but it was blue with 'Election Official' emblazoned across the back (well it was on the front until I realised I had it on backwards) and a very poor fit.
Feb 21, 2017 2:41 PM # 
blairtrewin:
My experience is also that major-party voters usually follow the how-to-vote cards unless they have a good reason not to - it will be interesting to see how many Liberal voters ignore their party HTVs giving preferences to One Nation.

Greens voters do their own thing (and also vote below the line in the Senate in vastly greater proportions than others), whilst most micro-party voters will never see a HTV card for their party.

This discussion does remind me a bit of going round the outer suburbs of Perth on election day 1998 (also Australian Long Championships day) trying to find somewhere which accepted interstate votes (there's usually one centre in each electorate which does), because someone in the schools team had just turned 18 and hadn't organised to vote before she left.
Feb 21, 2017 11:13 PM # 
tRicky:
Gee that doesn't sound like a junior, failing to organise something - reminds me of Angus forgetting to bring food to last year's ultra-long weekend.
Feb 21, 2017 11:28 PM # 
jennycas:
Last weekend Bridget/Simon/John (surprisingly) "did an Angus" and I ended up sharing my breakfast supplies with them!
Feb 22, 2017 12:15 AM # 
Juffy:
it will be interesting to see how many Liberal voters ignore their party HTVs giving preferences to One Nation

My local member sent around his HTV guff already (presumably because it comes out of his gov't allowances instead of his own pocket) - preferences in order:

* Liberal
* Aust Christians
* PHON
* SFF
* Lib Dems
[random idiots]
* Labor
* Green

It's mildly terrifying, but then I do live in the area that elected Caaaaaaptain Hasty.
Feb 22, 2017 3:52 AM # 
fizzyred:
apparently PHON is not interested in Nedlands so no candidate here but the HTV from the Libs, also received yesterday, has the Aust. Christians 2nd and Green last.

The Libs have a civil engineer, Labor a Geologist and the Greens a mining engineer standing. So far only one has made it to our door.
Feb 22, 2017 4:00 AM # 
LOST_Richard:
If you want to be really turned off by loony parties read the pitch from the Julie Matheson Party, who among other things is going to Make WA Great
Feb 22, 2017 4:22 AM # 
Juffy:
Oh my.
Feb 22, 2017 9:43 AM # 
blairtrewin:
Can't imagine Nedlands will exactly be a hotbed of campaign activity, although strange things sometimes happen when there's a really big swing on. In the 2002 Victorian state election I was involved in a seat on a 16% margin where the Labor candidate was one of the admin assistants from the party office, stuck on the ballot paper just before close of nominations to avoid the embarrassment of an uncontested seat (the plea to local branches for someone, anyone, willing to stand having gone unanswered), zero campaigning was done apart from handing out how-to-votes on the day itself, and she lost by 200 votes.

(Labor candidates in unwinnable country seats are quite often city uni students. A few Queensland elections ago, one of these people was unwise enough to admit to the local ABC that he had no particular connection to Hinchinbrook but had driven through it once on the way to Cairns).

Mining engineer sounds like an interesting occupation for a Greens candidate. I guess they'd know better than most what the mining companies are actually getting up to when no-one is looking.
Feb 22, 2017 10:37 AM # 
tRicky:
I wouldn't have a clue what any of the candidates in my area do for day jobs and to back up my claim as an impartial polling official, I equally have no clue what order the how to vote cards have for my area. Mind you, Southern River (my electorate) is currently only fourth in terms of number of voters through the door in my pre-polling district of Armadale (which also covers Darling Range).

We did have the Armadale and Jandakot Labor candidates and Darling Range Liberal candidate visit the spruikers throughout the day. The Jandakot one came in the middle of the day and complained about the lack of signage for the pre-polling booth, to which we replied that we've yet to receive it, and the other two both came along in the last hour to hand out cards to the trickle of voters that happen to show up at that time - we had a big morning rush today and random bursts throughout the day (apart from after 4pm). Apparently we could get as many as 15,000 throughout the three weeks, if the Liberal candidate is to be believed (the figures are no doubt inflated - we've had something like 450-500 so far).

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