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Discussion: Ridge Hill

in: barb; barb > 2017-02-26

Feb 26, 2017 2:28 PM # 
jjcote:
Assuming that's what you typed before autocorrect got to it, there used to be orienteering there, though I think entirely before my day. There's a color map made by Hans-J Luwald (obviously very dated), but he retained the copyright, it was not a NEOC map. Bottom line is that access permission was apparently available in the past, so there's potential, although the old map is likely not worth much. Although I never orienteered there, I did see the map at some point, and it didn't look overly interesting, but the area might be well-suited for your purposes.
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Feb 26, 2017 6:18 PM # 
GuyO:
What's lidar coverage/availability like in MA?
Feb 26, 2017 6:21 PM # 
barb:
Good, per Ed
Feb 26, 2017 8:01 PM # 
edwarddes:
We have full coverage of the entire state now.
Feb 27, 2017 1:16 AM # 
GuyO:
Jealous...

(though I'm not exactly in the loop -- or even near it -- regarding current NJ coverage)
Feb 27, 2017 2:35 PM # 
barb:
J-J, what would make a map interesting, or not, to you?
Feb 27, 2017 4:21 PM # 
jjcote:
One big featureless hill is not interesting. Neither is too much green. Wiggly contours, or a bunch of rock features (but not too many), or intricate green can be interesting. Among other things. For general orienteering purposes, Magazine Beach isn't very interesting, but for introductory and educational uses, it works well. It's been a while since I've seen the Ridge Hill map, so I don't remember the specifics. Although the old map probably isn't usable as is, it could give you a good overview of what the place is like if you can track down a copy.
Mar 2, 2017 10:38 AM # 
iansmith:
I ran on the Ridge Hill map in 2012, and I didn't find the terrain as interesting as Needham Town Forest. The map is dominated by a large marsh in the center that is completely inaccessible. IIRC, the useful part of the map would be about 0.25 sq km. There were some helpful comments not dissimilar to this thread.

If you are interested in additional NEOC maps, I'd suggest checking the Trustees land. There are some interesting possibilities; I have notes on a few, though Noon Hill was the best patch of unmapped terrain from that inquiry. I've talked about some of the Trustees terrain with Ed, too.

Also note that World's End is a neat park but remote and has really boring terrain of wide open fields, broad hills, and a smattering of impenetrable vegetation.
Mar 2, 2017 4:00 PM # 
barb:
My main interest in Ridge Hill was that it is closer to Wellesley than Needham Town Forest, so was wondering if we could get Isabel more training there...
Mar 2, 2017 5:02 PM # 
barb:
Thanks for the link to the old thread.

I don't have time/attention right now to think more broadly about maps.
I'm the NEOC scheduler, so what would be helpful is people just telling me what maps we should use and around when (time of year)...
Mar 2, 2017 9:12 PM # 
jjcote:
World's End is the most solidly poison ivy covered map I have ever been on. Seriously.
Mar 3, 2017 1:14 AM # 
coach:
I have several Ridge Hill maps, most with courses.
Mar 4, 2017 12:30 AM # 
barb:
Cool, maybe we could copy them so Izzy could try running there.
Mar 4, 2017 6:56 AM # 
o-maps:
Send 'er to New Hampsha! Or is public transportation access the goal. Those fine maps in close proximity to Tom Brady territory from last year's Troll Cup are especially good before the vegetation leafs out.
Mar 4, 2017 2:30 PM # 
barb:
Yeah, that would be good - the nice thing about Ridge Hill is it is just a couple miles (bikable) from her campus.

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