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in: Cristina; Cristina > 2017-03-01

Mar 2, 2017 5:39 PM # 
acjospe:
I want this. For our national events, our regional events, our local events. All I want is a little consistency and a little bit of standardization, and all I get is vitriolic pushback about how that's not how it's done.

Do you think we can just use the Norwegian materials straight from their website, or is that going to lead to some sort of copyright problem?
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Mar 3, 2017 4:00 PM # 
coach:
This is good, just a FYI, this is not new in the US, UNO had a model for simpler events a ways back (15 years ago).
I will also say that things are not as bad as Alex infers. I thing events, local to national, are consistent and have lots of standardization. I have never been confused or felt cheated at any other clubs events.
Sure, mapping varies, but that is to be expected as mappers come from near and far to produce maps.

And what a difference, clubs PAY OUSA for starts, NOF is paying clubs and oragnizers!
Mar 3, 2017 6:03 PM # 
iansmith:
@coach, I think what Alex is saying is that there are several aspects of the Norwegian program that the US currently lacks. At least three key goals of the flexolop are also unattained objectives for the US:
1. online pre-registration,
2. regular publicity and central information (Eventor)
3. consistent event format explicitly designed to be easy enough for anyone in the club to organize it.

And, as you point out, UNO might have had a similar model, but how many other clubs adopted that model? There are advantages to national institutions.

Events in the US are consistent in that they are on a map and use controls. There are wide ranges of event formats, dozens of different results formats and locations, variable amounts of publicity, and minimal inter-club communication or coordination. And I think all clubs struggle with the reality that a majority of the volunteer work is done by a minority of the club membership.

Obviously OUSA doesn't have the financial resources to subsidize these events as much as the Norwegians (especially in light of recent years), but perhaps discounts on registration fees could motivate clubs to adopt this format.

I think the key goals were OUSA to adopt a similar program would be basic publicity, use of a central registration/results database, and a roughly consistent class format. I think the last point is already generally true, but adoption could help with consistency of regional scorings.
Mar 5, 2017 3:53 AM # 
LKohn:
I didn't realize that Eventor could be used for local events.
Mar 5, 2017 7:44 PM # 
Cristina:
Norwegian Eventor, which we use for basically everything. National events, local events, local events without pre-registration, internal registration for club trainings and relays, as well as things like courses put on by NOF. There's not much reason to visit a club's website if all you're interested in is events -- you just go to Eventor and everything's there.
Mar 6, 2017 1:00 AM # 
blairtrewin:
Australia uses Eventor much the same way, although not all states have fully adopted it as yet for lower-level events.
Mar 7, 2017 3:51 PM # 
LKohn:
Good to know!

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