Discussion: Billygoat 2017 - Registration is OPEN
in: Billygoat 2017 (May 7, 2017 - Pound Ridge, NY, US)
Mar 11, 2017 5:06 PM
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HVO and WCOC will host the 2017 Billygoat at Ward Pound Ridge Reservation in Pound Ridge, NY on Sunday May 7, 2016. Races will include the traditional Billygoat along with a shorter version, Pygmy goat. Mass start at 10:30am. Register here
On Saturday the 6th there will be a Junior Training Camp, "Route Choice Training". It is OPEN TO EVERYONE of all ages. The venues will be close to the BG site, with the afternoon training session at Mountain Lakes, only a few miles from Ward Pound Ridge. See the WCOC website for more information. WCOC Schedule
On Saturday the 6th there will be a Junior Training Camp, "Route Choice Training". It is OPEN TO EVERYONE of all ages. The venues will be close to the BG site, with the afternoon training session at Mountain Lakes, only a few miles from Ward Pound Ridge. See the WCOC website for more information. WCOC Schedule
Mar 12, 2017 1:19 AM
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And, as long as I am no worst than the last to finish under 3:30:01, I will be equally thrilled. ;-)
Apr 8, 2017 2:29 PM
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We’ve finished vetting and flagging the controls for the upcoming 39th annual Billygoat, May 7, at Ward Pound Ridge in Cross River, NY. The woods are gorgeous–wide open, very runnable. Billygoat looks to be 13.3 k, about 470 meters climb, 25 controls; Pygmygoat is 7.5 k, about 280 meters climb, 11 controls.
Web page for registration, etc. is in Craig’s post above. We hope to see you there.
Web page for registration, etc. is in Craig’s post above. We hope to see you there.
Apr 8, 2017 6:16 PM
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To add to Craig's information about the Training Camp, there will be a morning session at Tarrywile Park near Danbury. After a break for lunch, we'll head over to Mountain Lakes for an afternoon session. You'll get the most benefit from doing both parts, but you're welcome to do just one if that suits you better!
If you're interested, please sign up on the Attack Point event page here:
http://attackpoint.org/eventdetail.jsp/event_37486
It's not necessary to register, but it will help give us an idea of maps. Thanks!
If you're interested, please sign up on the Attack Point event page here:
http://attackpoint.org/eventdetail.jsp/event_37486
It's not necessary to register, but it will help give us an idea of maps. Thanks!
Apr 25, 2017 11:29 PM
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GOAT NOTES
It’s almost Billygoat time! Below are some Notes from the Head Goat.
----- Parking and Start Time -----
The meet is at Ward Pound Ridge, Cross River, NY (site of 2016 US Champs). The location of Pound Ridge, as well as additional info, is on the event page at
http://hvorienteering.com/wp/index.php/event/billy...
For parking, the basic idea is to enter through the main entrance, continue straight to the Trailside Museum, and look for kindly meet workers to direct you to parking.
Important parking note: The park will charge a $10 entrance fee starting about 9:00 AM that morning. We encourage you to arrive before 9:00 to avoid the fee.
Mass start is at 10:30 AM sharp. Billygoat and Pygmygoat start at the same time from the same location. We’ll walk to the start about 10:10 AM.
----- Course Specs -----
Billygoat: 13.3 km, 470 meters climb, 25 controls.
Pygmygoat: 7.5 km, 290 meters climb, 11 controls.
----- Billygoat Traditions -----
Forked Control: There is one forked control. Both controls are shown on the map; you choose which fork to visit (you may also choose this as your skipped control; see below). Both controls have identical control descriptions, so you will not be able to tell from the clue sheet which control is the forked one.
Skipped Control: One of the primary BG traditions. You may skip one and only one control (this goes for the Pygmygoat as well). This can be any control. You may skip the first control, the last control, the control before or after the forked control or the forked control itself, or any other control. But only one. Choose wisely.
Following: Another key tradition. Following is explicitly allowed.
Saeger Loop: This year’s course features not one, but two Saeger Loops, and all for the same low, low price! This is sort of an on again/off again BG tradition. These are short loopy sections with deliberate doglegs in areas of good visibility, which allow you a good look at who is 3 to 4 minutes ahead of you and who is 3 to 4 minutes behind you.
Control Codes: Again keeping with tradition, control codes correspond to the initials of the top 25 finishers of last year’s BG.
Club Award: There seems to have been less emphasis on the Club Award in recent years, but by all means let’s bring it back. The Club Award is given based solely on the judgment of the Head Goat and using criteria not announced, though in the past bribery–which like following is explicitly allowed–has been an important feature. (Rumor has it the Head Goat enjoys local craft brews.)
Billygoat Doorstops: We are cautiously optimistic that we will have the coveted Billygoat doorstops traditionally awarded to the top male and female finishers.
And the Central Billygoat Tradition: This should be fun!
----- Map Notes -----
Not a lot to say. The past two years Craig Weber and I, with an assist from Geof Connor, remapped the area for the 2016 US Championships using an excellent basemap produced by Greg Balter. Craig did additional mapping recently so that the BG course can go into a section not used for last fall’s Champs. The map is to IOF standards (the one non-standard symbol on the map used for the fall Champs does not come into play on the BG course, so no need to concern ourselves with it here).
----- Other Park Users -----
If your route choice takes you near occupied shelters and picnic areas, PLEASE take a wide route around people using these areas. If a trail goes through such an area, just stay on the trail and don’t cut corners through areas others are using. Geof Connor has done a remarkable job getting the park to welcome orienteering, and we want to keep it that way.
----- Training Event Saturday -----
Don't forget the nearby training event the day before the BG. See Becks note immediately above.
----- Shout Outs -----
To Craig Weber, especially for handling all the Meet Director duties and for the recent additional mapping.
To Geof Connor, especially for his diplomacy in getting permissions and other workings with the park personnel. (What’s his secret? Is it just the Australian accent?)
To Greg Balter, for the previously mentioned basemap and for handling the map printing.
To all the additional volunteers helping with food, parking, packets, and all the usual tasks. As usual, we couldn’t do this without them.
Rick DeWitt
Head Goat, Billygoat 2017
It’s almost Billygoat time! Below are some Notes from the Head Goat.
----- Parking and Start Time -----
The meet is at Ward Pound Ridge, Cross River, NY (site of 2016 US Champs). The location of Pound Ridge, as well as additional info, is on the event page at
http://hvorienteering.com/wp/index.php/event/billy...
For parking, the basic idea is to enter through the main entrance, continue straight to the Trailside Museum, and look for kindly meet workers to direct you to parking.
Important parking note: The park will charge a $10 entrance fee starting about 9:00 AM that morning. We encourage you to arrive before 9:00 to avoid the fee.
Mass start is at 10:30 AM sharp. Billygoat and Pygmygoat start at the same time from the same location. We’ll walk to the start about 10:10 AM.
----- Course Specs -----
Billygoat: 13.3 km, 470 meters climb, 25 controls.
Pygmygoat: 7.5 km, 290 meters climb, 11 controls.
----- Billygoat Traditions -----
Forked Control: There is one forked control. Both controls are shown on the map; you choose which fork to visit (you may also choose this as your skipped control; see below). Both controls have identical control descriptions, so you will not be able to tell from the clue sheet which control is the forked one.
Skipped Control: One of the primary BG traditions. You may skip one and only one control (this goes for the Pygmygoat as well). This can be any control. You may skip the first control, the last control, the control before or after the forked control or the forked control itself, or any other control. But only one. Choose wisely.
Following: Another key tradition. Following is explicitly allowed.
Saeger Loop: This year’s course features not one, but two Saeger Loops, and all for the same low, low price! This is sort of an on again/off again BG tradition. These are short loopy sections with deliberate doglegs in areas of good visibility, which allow you a good look at who is 3 to 4 minutes ahead of you and who is 3 to 4 minutes behind you.
Control Codes: Again keeping with tradition, control codes correspond to the initials of the top 25 finishers of last year’s BG.
Club Award: There seems to have been less emphasis on the Club Award in recent years, but by all means let’s bring it back. The Club Award is given based solely on the judgment of the Head Goat and using criteria not announced, though in the past bribery–which like following is explicitly allowed–has been an important feature. (Rumor has it the Head Goat enjoys local craft brews.)
Billygoat Doorstops: We are cautiously optimistic that we will have the coveted Billygoat doorstops traditionally awarded to the top male and female finishers.
And the Central Billygoat Tradition: This should be fun!
----- Map Notes -----
Not a lot to say. The past two years Craig Weber and I, with an assist from Geof Connor, remapped the area for the 2016 US Championships using an excellent basemap produced by Greg Balter. Craig did additional mapping recently so that the BG course can go into a section not used for last fall’s Champs. The map is to IOF standards (the one non-standard symbol on the map used for the fall Champs does not come into play on the BG course, so no need to concern ourselves with it here).
----- Other Park Users -----
If your route choice takes you near occupied shelters and picnic areas, PLEASE take a wide route around people using these areas. If a trail goes through such an area, just stay on the trail and don’t cut corners through areas others are using. Geof Connor has done a remarkable job getting the park to welcome orienteering, and we want to keep it that way.
----- Training Event Saturday -----
Don't forget the nearby training event the day before the BG. See Becks note immediately above.
----- Shout Outs -----
To Craig Weber, especially for handling all the Meet Director duties and for the recent additional mapping.
To Geof Connor, especially for his diplomacy in getting permissions and other workings with the park personnel. (What’s his secret? Is it just the Australian accent?)
To Greg Balter, for the previously mentioned basemap and for handling the map printing.
To all the additional volunteers helping with food, parking, packets, and all the usual tasks. As usual, we couldn’t do this without them.
Rick DeWitt
Head Goat, Billygoat 2017
Apr 26, 2017 12:02 AM
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1st to register and 1st to bail? Sadly, a bum foot prevents me from attempting a 3rd try for a shirt.
May 4, 2017 12:51 AM
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Two Saeger loops, thanks for the mention, although I originally called them Competitor Spectating Loop, (Blue Hills Traverse, 1989).
May 7, 2017 7:03 PM
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Jordan, will H, giacomo, Robbie Graham, Kenny, jon t, Wyatt, Alan young
May 7, 2017 10:21 PM
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Basic results are available at http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/rdewitt/wcoc/resu...
The competition was close, with top 3 men within 31 seconds, top 3 women within a minute.
We'll get a more detailed report soon, with fork choices, skips, etc.
Btw, the ebox for control 21 quit working properly after the 10th runner, so everyone after that is missing that split. The box was not completely dead, so we may be able to recover those splits after we have a chance to query that box.
The competition was close, with top 3 men within 31 seconds, top 3 women within a minute.
We'll get a more detailed report soon, with fork choices, skips, etc.
Btw, the ebox for control 21 quit working properly after the 10th runner, so everyone after that is missing that split. The box was not completely dead, so we may be able to recover those splits after we have a chance to query that box.
May 7, 2017 10:47 PM
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P.S. Control 22 was the split. Box 122 was the southern shorter option with more climb; box 132 was the longer flatter northern option.
May 7, 2017 11:35 PM
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Can we get the women's results, too? Thanks! And thanks for a great event, really enjoyed myself out there.
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