Discussion: Good luck

Sounds like you are running some sort of mile today...good luck.

Thanks... started out well. Right on pace through the half. Remember Al Zetterlund? he was 5:59

I remember the name...can't remember which school he went to. Was it East? I can't believe there is another nut out there running and training. Although I really waver back and forth about racing...I'm not going to try anything until I retire and not sure if I should do anything more than 5k and 10k's...IF I hold up.

I'm experimenting...if you can call it that...with training...walking 2 days a week with a third if needed...but wondering if I should just walk 3 but when I retire really hit it on 3 if not 4 of the running days...running a half or full marathon IF I could hold up...

Kenny Moore ran a lot of 30 milers...he was actually more talented than I remembered...he was a good 5k and 10k runner and pretty tough too. Bowerman was crazy...you probably either liked him for that or disliked him. Did you ever read Moore's book on Bowerman? It's weird how many good runners and people and trends he was involved with...Nike/Blue Ribbon Sports...running itself...turning Eugene into a track mecca, etc.

What was your time...I understand you had the breathing/heart rate thing...but did you finish? It's weird because my 10K time trial that turned into a 9.6k I had the same trend...first 1/3 I was cruising...and I usually start very slow now days...then it snuck up on me although I started to worry I was going to crash...but it was kinda shocking to hit 24 laps and my stomch seized up....I could have walked jogged but I it would have been over 10 min pace and ruined the overall effort anyway without adding anything to it. I ran 60 yards short of 6 miles at 8:45 to 8:50 pace (I called it 5.96 but it might be 5.97 or 5.98..) and was slowing...that was a good pace. Chipping away to go under 9, 8:45, 8:30 and hopefully 8 for 5k by end of year on track...

Is this the same thing as what you had in H/S sometimes? You called it a lung thing then...or maybe it was after H/S but I remember you had a breathing problem at some point.

I experienced what I guess was exercise induced asthma in 81 or 82 when I was starting to burn out from running so much since 78...without the proper rest and recovery...I still remember one run where I was breathing in but it did not feel like any air was getting into my lungs...or only say 15% or so...I was not dying or choking or gasping but it was a weird feeling...mostly I remember 1 run where it was the worst....I was really melting down mentally dealing with all that running and not resting and being addicted to running so much I could not/would not rest enough to get any benefit out of my training...my legs went numb...I could run training pace pretty close to the same even with dead legs but when I tried to go race pace there was nothing there.

I think James is really affected by his knee operations...he's never gone back into that super hard training he was doing that was basically me doing basketball instead of running. He' s working out but I'm not sure how hard...compared to pre surgery 2 years ago...

I'm getting lasik surgery today. At noon...Chrissy had it done 12 years ago and it worked great...gulp...

That was a great run.