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Discussion: Sticking things in the ground

in: blairtrewin; blairtrewin > 2017-05-24

May 24, 2017 12:57 AM # 
tRicky:
We have two venues in Perth (Kings Park and Reabold Hill) where we're not even allowed to attach removable controls to any features (e.g. trees, seats, signs, etc) and the fee these days is beyond our budget for a Metro event anyway. We are allowed to use traffic cones though. Consequently we haven't used either venue for quite a number of years despite them being very popular.

You are allowed to stick things to trees though if you are a large, well known event - e.g. PIAF.
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May 24, 2017 2:28 AM # 
TheInvisibleLog:
Seems like a good argument for using the orienteering version of Pokemon Go.
May 24, 2017 2:36 AM # 
tRicky:
I've been doing Suburb Runs (a 'virtual' street orienteering program) designed by one of our local orienteers and whilst I like it for training, it's just not as good as going out and finding real things on the ground!
May 24, 2017 3:25 AM # 
TheInvisibleLog:
Its a good approach for guerrilla orienteering when getting a permit is just too difficult.
May 24, 2017 3:32 AM # 
tRicky:
Half the time I wonder why we bother contacting the relevant authorities, particularly when you get charged a fee for setting up a couple of tables in a park whereas if you didn't tell them, they'd never know you were there!

Worse is when you get comments along the lines of 'You're no longer allowed to camp on Crown land. Besides, that spot you've picked is where the trailbikers camp.' Seriously?
May 24, 2017 4:15 AM # 
TheInvisibleLog:
Seriously?
May 24, 2017 5:54 AM # 
tRicky:
Seriously.
May 24, 2017 6:09 AM # 
TheInvisibleLog:
As in they can't control trailbikers but they can control mild mannered you?
May 24, 2017 6:14 AM # 
tRicky:
The problem is we ask for permission so it's easy for them to say no. Trailbikers do what they want (including making their own trails through the bush, a process by which the Perth mtbing community goes through a massive consultation process to get even one new trail in) and even though DPaW knows they're there, they don't bother doing anything about them.
May 24, 2017 7:57 AM # 
Tooms:
Ridiculous. You can demonstrate you're a government managing something when you can prove you're making prospective users comply with your extensive requirements. Even better, ban them, it's easier and demonstrates in your stats that you're 'managing' the problem. Whereas, trail bikers, there's no registered body that can have action taken against it, therefore, unmanageable, therefore, ignore.

And the obesity and sedentary habits have greater barriers to overcome.

We can't dig holes for small stakes for a permanent course - but we are allowed to whack pointy stakes in with a sledge as digging = disturbing the ground = must apply to indigenous land corporation & other landowners for permission whereas whacking in is not distubing the soil!
May 25, 2017 1:13 AM # 
Juffy:
Ricky - I don't suppose they were stupid enough to say that in writing?
May 25, 2017 1:23 AM # 
tRicky:
Dunno, you'd have to ask Wil.

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