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Discussion: Rossmoyne lost valley

in: tRicky; tRicky > 2017-06-06

Jun 6, 2017 2:12 PM # 
How far did you go south into the bush? The bit right next to the school is mostly blackberries, but if you keep going south the strip along Karel Ave down to Brockman is actually rather nice, there are several very small walk tracks, a substantial dam, and it has a nice kind of lost world feel being down below all the surroundings and full of exotic plants.

Also what teacher at Rossmoyne asked you to do mapping? I made some enquiries before entering Patrick as an independent entry for Rossmoyne in the schools champs, but didn't get a sense there was much interest.
Jun 6, 2017 3:55 PM # 
Wendy Corrick - she leads the Bushrangers (apparently this is a thing, Hampton also has them) but apparently 'works from home' a lot.

I didn't go very far. I tried to gauge over emails how far south she wanted but it was never decided, just 'the bush reserve south of the school'. I guess I'll find out when I go into the school (after I've done all the aerial drawing). For now I'll just draw what I was sent by our mapping peoples. She did say the kids would be sticking to tracks so I didn't think drawing the bush in any great detail would be useful but I will anyway because it's how I roll.
Jun 7, 2017 5:02 AM # 
If you can map the further south bit I think it is quite nice. Just enough of a track network to be useable, some of the bush further from the creek, near the main dirt path is fairly open too. I noticed on the rogaine entry form last week that Bushrangers are eligible for the cadets category. Still not sure exactly what they are, the info on the school web page suggests they mainly focus on planting more stuff in whatever parts of the bush beside the school are not green yet.
Jun 7, 2017 5:24 AM # 
Bushrangers are Dept of Parks and Wildlife cadets. Back when the government were throwing money at cadetsWA you had navy, army, airforce, emergency services and bushranger cadets. I think also there were police style cadets as well. A lot of it has gone by the wayside but we have bushrangers at our school and the focus is on environmental management.
Jun 7, 2017 5:42 AM # 
I'm not going to map it if they don't want me to. We've already been told we (probably) can't use the map.
Jun 7, 2017 6:22 AM # 
the focus is on environmental management

By which, of course, you mean telling people they can't camp there because they're not allowed, and besides someone else is already camping there and they're really noisy? :)
Jun 7, 2017 6:23 AM # 
That's called environmental ignoration.
Jun 7, 2017 10:41 AM # 
I ran a Busheangers cadet unit at Ellenbrook CC in 2002. Lifetime highlight (not). The program had plenty of potential if you actually had time to make it happen. I did not.
Jun 7, 2017 11:13 AM # 
No wonder kids these days are so disinterested in learning with motivational teachers like you in charge :P
Jun 7, 2017 12:04 PM # 
Problem is these motivational teachers are overworked, underpaid and ... have a life outside of work and sport :P. I don't know how people manage to fit it all in.
Jun 8, 2017 12:06 AM # 
Get a big backpack.
Jun 8, 2017 12:13 AM # 
Whilst you are sitting at home unemployed, can you please track down the spilts from Sunday and get them uploaded please......
Jun 8, 2017 12:24 AM # 
Sunday is uploaded. We can't upload Monday to AP due to the failure to synch bricks causing negative splits (I have them in XML format but can't do anything about them). I don't know what's going on with the upload to TBT but I think the multi-day event is causing dramas there.
Jun 8, 2017 12:27 AM # 
which bricks were giving negative splits?
Jun 8, 2017 12:30 AM # 
The last CP before the finish (#136). I had a 3 second split on that one for the H1 then -1 for the H4 and my finish sprint of approx 100m downhill was a whopping 48 seconds!

Incidentally has anyone told you a brick was lost during collection on Sunday? I think it was #132.
Jun 8, 2017 12:57 AM # 
Yes I have been told about #132. It won't be replaced until at least the MTBO.
Jun 8, 2017 1:29 AM # 
I can fix the neg split issue, will have a look at it tonight. Any idea how far out it is, tRicky?
Jun 8, 2017 1:45 AM # 
It would have been pretty close to 30 seconds out.
Jun 8, 2017 6:28 AM # 
Yep that'd be about right and that control was also used on all seven courses.
Jun 8, 2017 6:56 AM # 
No worries - I'll adjust it tonight and update Eventor and AP.
Jun 8, 2017 12:59 PM # 
Back when I suggested to Shotrat a few years ago that he might map Bull Creek for Metro I assumed that he would actually include Bull Creek (the creek, not the suburb), but he only mapped South of Parry Ave.
Jun 8, 2017 1:24 PM # 
I'll have to have a word with him about his lack of commitment.
Jun 8, 2017 2:47 PM # 
Dalto -
#136: about 30s slow
#137: between 113 and 145s slow
#118: between 71 and 147s slow (it's also possible there's two 118s in the set, because apparently it was used on both the M and H1 and the times don't reconcile)


Splits for day 2 are up.
Jun 9, 2017 12:36 AM # 
Damn I didn't win the finish and I smashed that pretty hard too - once on the H1 and again on the E.
Jun 9, 2017 1:17 AM # 
The M and H courses both had the same control at 118.

Not convinced the M control 129 is correct either. Apparently Aldo did 27 secs on this leg. I know he's fast but that leg was more than twice the length of the last control to the finish, was uphill to the trickiest control on the M course.

Simon's 17 secs on the finish split to my 30 got him his 4 sec lead over me. Liam's gloating now saying "See I told you the finish split is important. Should've sprinted it. Tut, tut."
Jun 9, 2017 1:19 AM # 
So, will you guys all be hiring SI Air at the Aust Champs to gain you those few seconds' advantage...?
Jun 9, 2017 1:31 AM # 
Ricky already owns an SI Air - I'm happy to lend my SI Air to a WA person as I won't be going to the Aust Champs ;)
Jun 9, 2017 1:33 AM # 
Would be good if they also used it at the Aus MTBO champs but then there'll be complaints from riders who don't have it and don't want to hire it.
Jun 9, 2017 1:33 AM # 
132 is needed for the Sprint Champs, probably for the School Champs too. Haven't got sprint entries from Boltboi or the M. Duftys yet. Or jennycas come to think of it :)
Jun 9, 2017 1:49 AM # 
There are two sets of bricks.
Jun 9, 2017 1:58 AM # 
Not convinced the M control 129 is correct either. Apparently Aldo did 27 secs on this leg.

129 was the next control after 118, which I had to adjust. According to the original data Aldo went from #1 (128) to #2 (118) to #3 (129) in 46 seconds, so I had a very narrow window in which to adjust 118 and opted to plonk it pretty much in the middle.

So it's entirely possible that 129 has drifted as well, or I adjusted 118 badly.
Jun 9, 2017 2:03 AM # 
This is what happens when our damned volunteers don't follow instructions.
Jun 9, 2017 6:54 AM # 
I'm aware there are two sets tRicky, but we have three events in 8 days coming up. We need both sets back in the Shed after this Sunday's event so that they can all be synched and the School Champs setters and I can take what we need. BB can get the set that I take, after the Sprint.
Jun 9, 2017 9:26 AM # 
I think you'll find it's three events in nine days - plenty of time!
Jun 9, 2017 11:31 AM # 
I know a valley, my secret valley...
Jun 9, 2017 11:57 AM # 
Oh wow - the memories. I couldn't read that post without singing it in my head!
Jun 10, 2017 11:17 PM # 
Simmo, Would love to supply you a 132 brick but someone stole my laptop and master stations and they refuse to return it... I have no equipment to program a new brick for you.
Jun 11, 2017 5:24 AM # 
You can have them back at Kangaroo Gully or the sprint champs - your choice :P

Meantime just use the 170 brick as a 132 as what happened today if it's too difficult to change the code in PurplePen.
Jun 11, 2017 11:21 AM # 
Maps had been sent to the printer, but I managed to hold them up and delete 132.

TRicky what's this about not enough SI cards at Greenmount? Pretty embarrassing if trail runners turned up as a result of the promo. However, if they read the West Australian they probably went to the sprint champs venue instead!
Jun 11, 2017 12:40 PM # 

It is easy to use any brick to substitute on the day . Change the number in the back end of OE to 170 or whatever put 132 on a stick on label on the SI brick and all will be fine.

Unfortunately Si Bricks get lost on occasions or fail for other reasons so this in not a show stopper and this is the work around.
Jun 11, 2017 1:07 PM # 
Richard - I know all this. Enjoy your holiday and stop worrying about OWA issues. :)
Jun 12, 2017 1:01 AM # 
Simmo, the caravan broke and didn't make it to Greenmount and unfortunately not all the necessary gear was remembered in the transfer to the trailer.
Jun 12, 2017 1:03 AM # 
Just another brick in the wall.
Jun 12, 2017 1:55 AM # 
Looks like the same bricks as last Monday were used again yesterday and weren't synchronized again if TBT is anything to go by (plus there are heaps of people with a negative split on both T2 and T3). I'm fairly confident Simmo will take care of this for next weekend though :-)

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