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Discussion: Hokas

in: Super; Super > 2017-06-21

Jun 21, 2017 2:17 PM # 
Dr. Bell in Orillia, who works with elite runners, pointed out that 'Bent's Hokas didn't reduce forces on his body but merely changed the timing of the forces on various body parts. In his experience, they reduced foot problems but could cause issues farther up for some people (not 'Bent, apparently). They are extremely popular among the 100 miler crowd so they work for a lot of people - although those people aren't usually running as fast as you are, and I wonder if that makes a difference. Also, they're usually on trails where the forces on the body change with almost every step, whereas road running involves more repetitive forces.

Your recent training has been surprisingly super beautiful although in this study (from 2013 so I'm sure you've seen it), you would fall in the "more likely to be injured" group. In short, they advise rotating through different shoe models and biking along the Burlington waterfront.
Jun 21, 2017 4:49 PM # 
I've been thinking about dr Bell. Logistics would be very challenging but I am finding that I need to try harder in nearly every aspect of regaining/maintaining fitness lately, so that fits.

That makes sense about Hokas re. Redistribution. I think they've served me well but it's time to change the channel a bit. And switching up between a couple of road shoes and the occasional trail run works in every way. I've found before that the best before date on road shoes is very real. I can usually tell by the way my lower legs feel when they're done - not so much with the Hokas but maybe it's the transfer of force showing up elsewhere.

I've been happy with my progress for the most part. Consistency and sticking to a plan have been better than ever lately. I'm more cautious and methodical now out of necessity. It would seem that now the moment I get careless I get sidelined. Part of the plan has been deliberately running a lot because A. Marathon, B. Time vs. Effectiveness. Time to add some variation in the training while maintaining mileage though, I agree. That's why I'm doing the strength work but that's not going to tick this box.

After this cycle is complete I have a lot of baseball travel to do and while it's fun for the boy it's really going to mess up my routine. Days in the car, terrible food, late nights, weird schedules, intense southern heat. I have two good weeks in July and then it's a mess till the middle of august. Considering optimizing those first two good weeks and then trying to complete one week of training or it's equivalent over the two weeks of travel. Then addressing the next round in august - so crucial to an October race - when I get there hopefully in ok shape and unimpaired by any of the problematic areas I've been working with so far.

Wow, let's talk about me!
Jun 21, 2017 5:40 PM # 
Hey, it's your log! Dr. Bell is great but he's far away and often fully booked for weeks. I gave up although I may return at some point. Some of the top local triathletes are fans of Steve Hill in Brampton and I think 'Bent has seen Paul Garvey a few times at the same place.

You don't talk about your strength work in nearly enough detail. Are the workouts named after women? Do you AMRAP, MU or OHS? How are we supposed to know?!?! Regardless, it should balance your body out and make you more durable. Anvil must know some prison workouts you could do in a hotel while traveling for baseball, and maybe he'll teach you some new acronyms too. Some power yoga might be another good addition. You can follow videos online and use a hotel bath towel for your mat. You can do plyo while traveling too. Squat jumps aren't the same as running but they make running feel easier.

Good luck with your marathon training. In all seriousness, your AP log has been looking great!
Jun 21, 2017 6:06 PM # 
I was going to make a 90s movie reference, but decided it was going to make Super feel too old.
Jun 21, 2017 6:46 PM # 
Have at it Nev. It won't bother me for two reasons - first, I'll probably forget all about it five minutes later and second, because your 42nd birthday is looking way more imminent than mine, you geezer.
Jun 21, 2017 8:31 PM # 
Who's the boss here? Tony Danza? No, its you!

Name the film.
Jun 21, 2017 11:24 PM # 

She would buy more shoes!

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