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Discussion: Impressed that you played netball after today!

in: biddy; biddy > 2017-09-03

Sep 3, 2017 12:07 PM # 
All I did was walk around to the pub for dinner :)
Sep 3, 2017 12:17 PM # 
It was hard
Sep 3, 2017 9:36 PM # 
43 for a middle and 1.45 for a long seems like they missed the winning times by a bit!
Sep 3, 2017 9:42 PM # 
Hmm I think the middle length was ok but just hillier and the long was a bit long but that was ok. I don't mind slugging it out
Sep 4, 2017 12:03 AM # 
Same course planner as in 2009 where I did 1:48 for 12.5km on this map but I don't think the course was quite as steep then. (I commented at the time that length was overkill.)
Sep 4, 2017 12:16 AM # 
was there a controller??
Sep 4, 2017 2:12 AM # 
I thought W21A was meant to have a 60min winning time? That's what I've planned the 8km long ACT Champs to...
Sep 4, 2017 2:43 AM # 
table 16.10
Sep 4, 2017 3:06 AM # 
That presumes the presence of an elite class. States make their own rules for winning times for state championships (although these ought to be based on OA recommendations). For SA long champs without elites our guidelines do say 70 min for W21A, but often the winning times are in the 80s - which is more appropriate in the leadup to Aust Champs, and maybe we could update our guidelines to say 80-90 min?
Sep 4, 2017 3:31 AM # 
I don't see that those winning times 'presume' anything. if they should only be interpreted in the context of having both E and A classes then that should be clear.

what the OA rules do say, is that they apply to any group A and B races, which includes state championships, so therefore table 16.10 does apply...

2.1 These rules, together with the Appendices, shall be binding at all Group
A and B events, subject to the provisions of rule 2.10. Every rules point
with no event abbreviation before its number is valid for all these
events. A rules point valid only for one or more of these events is
marked with the specific abbreviation(s) in the margin beside the rules
point number. Such specific rules take precedence over any general
rules with which they conflict.
Sep 4, 2017 3:35 AM # 
Maybe I just needed to run faster?
Sep 4, 2017 7:48 AM # 
I agree Bomb - no ambiguity there for me. 60mins regardless of presence of elite class, and no other guidelines to refer to in the ACT at least. Not to say that I agree with them though - far from it.
Sep 4, 2017 10:27 PM # 
Rule 2.10
Sep 4, 2017 10:36 PM # 
2.10... the 'but actually just do whatever you want' clause?
Sep 4, 2017 11:41 PM # 
I do note that in Appendix 4 the course groupings for a state long championships without elites imply a 60 minute winning time for W21 and 80 for M21, which seems a bit short for the women when compared to the recommendations of 75-80 min W21E & 90 min M21E for Aust Long.

So, Craney, it depends on whatever your controller says, I guess!
Sep 5, 2017 6:17 AM # 
Well this whole thing has been an education!
Sep 5, 2017 6:56 AM # 
Geez all the drama you cause Bridget haha
Sep 5, 2017 7:44 AM # 
I should have just run faster

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