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in: dbakker; dbakker > 2018-02-02

Feb 4, 2018 12:45 AM # 
Pink Socks:
...which has taken some of the joy out of running.

Running groups or clubs?

I don't really enjoy running by myself, either. When I started running with a local running group in late 2014, my fitness and morale while running both improved.


Not related, but I came up with a logo that works well for an Orienteering Tournament of Okanagan (or Okanagan Orienteering Tournament or any variation of O, O, and T). Doesn't really work with an A and R, though.
Feb 4, 2018 3:43 AM # 
There is a cross country running team at the University, but their season ended in November (I do regret not asking to join in on their practices though, and will probably ask for next year).

In terms of more public clubs, I can only find one, and they run once a week on Saturdays at 7:30am. Unfortunately, it looks like almost all their routes start and finish a long ways from where I live, and by taking public transit (I have no car) would take me almost 45 minutes to get to (if there is even a bus at that time). The university is not very centrally located in Kelowna, it's around 25 minutes by car from downtown - and public transit is awful here.

So not really sure what the solution is, waiting for the snow to melt so I can get onto some of the rough forest maps of the surroundings hills for some more mental stimulation, but that will probably be at least another month.


Can you send me the idea? I'm intrigued, I haven't really been thinking about the graphic design aspect too much yet (other than maybe contrasting the boxy approach of SART with a flowy Ogopogo based theme), focusing on school and mapping when I have time at the moment. I'm not overly convinced with calling it OART, but couldn't come up with anything better - happy to change the name (ideally to something Kelowna rather than Okanagan based, mostly because of the US/Canada spelling issue potentially causing trouble, but it would then restrict our future venue selection).

Unfortunately, we just decided this week to push back the event by 1 week, to May 5th/6th. UBCO, our Sunday event site has a massive cheerleading tournament planned the same weekend, as well as professional cleaning of the entire campus (all the students have just moved out from winter term the week before), so it would have been a zoo. Pushing it back a weekend means we'll have the campus to ourselves, and can book an indoor room for the day as well. Nobody else seems to have scheduled events on this date yet according to WhyJustRun and Attackpoint, so hopefully haven't made any new conflicts.
Feb 7, 2018 6:03 AM # 
Even though the XC season ends in the fall, most uni teams practice year round, that would definitely be a great option!
Feb 7, 2018 6:46 AM # 
Pink Socks:
Does this link work?
Feb 7, 2018 7:07 AM # 
@schristoph - I used to race against one of the guys on the XC running team at the University in XC skiing a few years ago (never really got to know him that well, he is a year older than me so I only raced him every second year), might be able to ask him and find out if they are still practicing. Thanks!

@Pink_Socks - Yes that link works, interesting design! I have yet to see an orienteering logo that incorporates map symbols into it this well (although I think the black T isn't a proper symbol width, but it matches better with the control circle this way). Most of the time orienteering logos with map symbols just look tacky, but this is nice and clean. The control circle and T look great, I'm not overly convinced on the large tree symbol in the middle just yet. I'll send it around the other two organizers and see what they think. Thanks!
Feb 7, 2018 7:15 AM # 
Patrick, I'm just curious, but are you happy with naming your event an "Adventure Running" rather than "orienteering". If you could go back and choose again the name, would it be the same?
Feb 7, 2018 7:51 AM # 
Pink Socks:
Ok, I wanted you to see it first before I added further comments.

The symbols and colors should be to spec, because I made it in OOM to ISSOM! The black lines are uncrossable walls. If you wanted thicker, there's the uncrossable cliff.

The design also can be flexible if you wanted to be a little playful in various uses. Switch the wall to a large trail (or whatever linear symbol you fancy), switch the tree to a fountain or cairn or large boulder, switch the area colors to whatever color/pattern you want.

For this mockup, I chose the black wall (and very light and white area symbols) to provide the best contrast. I chose the tree circle because it's different than black but still offers some contrast, and it's a pretty common map item and control feature.

If I had final say, I'd probably tweak some of the colors from spec; the ISSOM purple and green are a bit harsh when paired with other colors. I probably wouldn't tweak any of the symbol sizes, though.

Obviously, the logo could be flipped horizontally to depict an OOT. And obviously, you don't have to use it if you don't like the names with O's and T's. I was just doodling like I do and came up with the idea... And then thought about who could use it. So it's not an insult if you don't use it.
Feb 7, 2018 8:14 AM # 
Pink Socks:
Yeah, so SART. No regrets.

First event was in 2015, but I brainstormed it in 2009, and a name came sometime in between. Adventure Running Kids was getting popular, so I felt like it would be a fun name for the event, would have potential for bringing in non-orienteers (though that hasn't happened yet), and also have a catchy acronym.

In three years of events (and club discussions before that)nobody has pushed back or criticized the name to me, and it's kinda stuck, and I think in a good way. I think most orienteers get what I was trying to do, at least.

I also didn't feel like I had any great alternatives at the time. Seattle Sprint Orienteering Tournament (SSOT, or any variations SOT, OTS, SOTS) just didn't seem to have a nice ring to them.

Looking at it now, maybe something like Seattle SprintFest could work, but I really wanted to emphasize the tournament aspect of it. "Tournament" just isn't a very grateful word.

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