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Discussion: yikes!

in: Cristina; Cristina > 2018-04-04

Apr 4, 2018 11:12 PM # 
jjcote:
$473 for less than 8 mph over the limit (57 mph in a 50 zone)? Sheesh!
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Apr 5, 2018 3:39 AM # 
Bash:
$604!! :(( ***

*** JJ was correct too.
Apr 5, 2018 3:42 AM # 
bbrooke:
Oof....that sucks. :-\
Apr 5, 2018 10:48 AM # 
bubo:
You must have been very eager to come to Sweden! That´s not really a bad thing, is it?
Apr 5, 2018 2:14 PM # 
Jagge:
In Finland 20 km/h over limit means usually suspended driving license.
Apr 5, 2018 2:34 PM # 
jjcote:
Yeah, I didn't convert to loonies, Barb. ;-)

Apparently fines start at 3 km/hr over the limit. Which is insane.
Apr 5, 2018 3:22 PM # 
Bash:
When we rented a car in Norway, we were shocked when the speed limit appeared on our dashboard display. I don't think we stayed within 3 kph all the time so we were lucky.

Such a bummer!
Apr 5, 2018 11:20 PM # 
blairtrewin:
Coming from Australia, where speed limits are enforced as rigidly as they are in Norway (although the fines aren't quite as high), it was a bit of a culture shock to me to see the generally relaxed attitude to speed limits on American freeways.

(Does Norway calculate traffic fines on the basis of one's income, or is it only Finland that does that? Every now and again you hear a story from Finland about some ultra-rich businessman being fined tens of thousands for a minor speeding offence).
Apr 6, 2018 12:04 AM # 
jjcote:
A chart that I found showed 3700 kr to be the standard fine for that speed.

In the USA, I get a bit nervous if I get up near 130 km/hr when the speed limit is 90, but there are usually still cars passing me.
Apr 6, 2018 1:57 AM # 
Super:
I was caught in Ontario at 143 in a 100 km/h zone. Fine was more than $200 but less than $300. Generally, no one would get pulled over until going over 120 kph in a 100 zone. At 150 your license is suspended and you car is impounded for a couple of weeks.
Apr 6, 2018 2:36 AM # 
Bash:
Have you started a GoFundMe? ;(
Apr 6, 2018 1:38 PM # 
acjospe:
Wowzers. That's a shocker. I guess that'll enforce a culture of no speeding.
Apr 6, 2018 2:42 PM # 
Cristina:
Earlier on Wednesday I also got my 2017 tax info from Norway and discovered that this year I will not be getting a hefty refund, as I did last year, but rather that I *owe* taxes. So it was a pretty good day.
Apr 6, 2018 6:29 PM # 
chitownclark:
....I get a bit nervous if I get up near 130 km/hr when the speed limit is 90, but there are usually still cars passing me....

Just another example how we in the US cater to drivers...to the exclusion of other means of transport...including biking, transit, Amtrak, etc. The sad condition of NYC's subway system only the most recent example.

Since speed kills, sometimes just as effectively as an AK-47, it seems appropriate that speeding should be aggressively punished by exaggerated fines and suspensions. Certainly many more Americans are killed by speeding than by assault rifles. Wonder why the Nordic point of view, laws, and behavior, doesn't have more support in the US?
Apr 6, 2018 7:04 PM # 
jjcote:
There are a lot of Nordic attitudes that don't go over well in the USA. Like their view of private property.
Apr 9, 2018 3:45 AM # 
Ari-o:
In Rhode Island, they set up speed cameras in school zones, and started giving people going more than 10 mph over the limit (30 in a 20, mph) and people were so pissed off that you would fine them ($95, no points on your insurance) for trying to kill children. Then politicians tried to ban speed cameras.

Also everyone here (Boston) rolls stop signs, treats red lights as optional, etc.

Plus, if you fined everyone on, say, Route 3 north of 128 $440 for exceeding the speed limit by 12 km/h or more, you'd fine basically everyone. That would be quite the new revenue stream for the state!
Apr 9, 2018 10:08 AM # 
Jagge:
My regular 15 km drive to work has 6 camera poles and back 7. That is 13 poles / 30 km. All of them does not have camera inside, some of them are empty, they move cameras from pole to pole frequently.
Apr 9, 2018 1:29 PM # 
chitownclark:
.... a lot of Nordic attitudes...don't go over well in the USA...

Well is it because of education? Social adaptation? Poor parenting? 'Me-me-me' attitude? Our image of ourselves as 'rugged individualists?' DJT's electorate?

I want to explain the US to my Finn wife....
Apr 10, 2018 1:00 PM # 
Cristina:
I'm not sure we want all of the Nordic attitudes in the US. I think it's great that generally there's a lot less speeding in Norway than in the US, but if the reason for the compliance is because of Janteloven or the "social tightness" of Norwegian society then we should find a different way.
Apr 10, 2018 2:32 PM # 
JanetT:
@clark, there's no way you can explain the US except as a melting pot of many cultures, opinions, and attitudes. No generalizations apply to the US as a whole, it seems, despite your wish to describe the "American culture."

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