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Discussion: Beer tent and food

in: Bash; Bash > 2018-05-26

May 28, 2018 3:12 PM # 
'Bent:
I have to say even with a slightly queasy post-race stomach I enjoyed a cold beer. The veggie dog option looked suspect, but with some amazing home-made slaw on top it was quite good, as was the potato salad.

Good food after a well-run race with nice prizing- that's STT for you.
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May 28, 2018 4:05 PM # 
FB:
Great racing Bash! (and Bent!)

Another great Storm event. I don't know how to resolve the stopping short of CP issue, short of changing course design so you 'have' to go past it or actually sending staff out to hand out penalties. We weren't even competitive, but it's annoying debating a 100 yard rule (and it's true intent) with your own team mates never mind other teams. CP 21 was likely the worst CP I saw as well. The 'generally accepted' 100 yard/meter mark was a lot more like 150-200m IMHO and just conveniently located right were the muck started to get good and nasty :-) .... but I did see teams split up as far back as the ''primary" road. It annoyed me and I had no aspirations of a lofty top half finish! :-)
I thought the CP descriptions on the paddle was a great way to go, especially for a paddle start. Punching CP's with all those boats sux.... but there were some huge liberties taken by teams there as well, so....

Still a great day! and good choice by us to get scoot back to the campsite JUST before the skies opened up. My massive Canadian tire tent held up... barely!
May 28, 2018 5:02 PM # 
Bash:
Yes, I saw racers waiting back at the intersection who never even saw the hydrocut at CP20. (CP21 was the sign post and I assume that other team I saw just whizzed right by it.) I'll confess to giving one of those guys a "death glare" as I rode by the intersection but he gave me a friendly nod so I don't think I made my point, haha!

'Bent finally spoke to a 4-person team who kept hanging back at CPs, and their team captain thanked him because they'd been ignoring his requests to come closer when he punched the controls.

Agreed, probably the only way to solve it is to limit the number of out-and-back CPs. I saw an issue near CP41 but there were none at CP42. Some of those out-and-back CPs are a lot of fun though so I understand why they're included in this race and at most races. There was a loooong discussion of a similar topic in the comments on my AP race report for Raid The Rib last month, in case you missed it while you were packing for your move.

Yes, the CP descriptions on the floating CPs were an awesome solution to a tricky problem. It is so difficult to punch controls on the water.

Nice to see you a few times during the day. Mike's son had a great debut!
May 28, 2018 6:23 PM # 
'Bent:
Yeah, the guys I spoke to were nowhere near their team captain, in a trail section.
Maybe 400-500m away at least. Their captain suffered in the heat from dashing to get controls too, and was glad I spoke up to them.

FB, what liberties were taken on the boats? With all the Goosepower in our boat we never saw the pack.
May 28, 2018 7:11 PM # 
Bash:
Teams with two boats sent only one boat to read the CP, which made sense. However, some teams were better than others at estimating the 100 m separation between their boats. Forcing all boats to go outside the buoys would be an easy way to address that.

For the most part though, there's not much Storm could do about this. No adventure race pushes the team togetherness rule harder than they do.

This was a tiny part of my experience and didn't affect me as a solo. I loved the race course design, the fun bike riding and the new areas to explore on foot. It was great to be able to stop by Kawartha Dairy for ice cream after a yummy post-race meal. Although I'm paying for it now, I'm really glad I raced!
May 29, 2018 3:19 AM # 
Carbon's Offset:
Lung infections are temporary. Glory is forever. :)
Edit: but do see Bash’s good note below; I would hate for someone to get severely affected and think that I was giving a green light to race when sick.
May 29, 2018 3:20 AM # 
Carbon's Offset:
Awesome performance! Congrats to you, plus your smart gear choices :)
May 29, 2018 2:42 PM # 
simpy:
Great report. We warned some teams who showed up at CP6 a LONG time before the rest of their team showed up. Not cool. Nate and I touched all CP's (except floating ones) together. He Dabbed and I manually punched. Promise. :D
May 30, 2018 1:58 AM # 
Browner:
I'll talk to Storm about making use of the boat compound wristbands for manual punch proof that all 4 teammates punched at a few random CPs that you don't know require all to punch until you get there (but it's all the out and back ones). This will slow down the finish line as we verify, but if we get another volunteer just to check this one thing, I'll bet we'd have teams staying closer together, at least the ones who want a medal.

But congrats on the winning streak! Hopefully you recover soon.
May 30, 2018 2:29 AM # 
Bash:
Thanks, aside from the occasional coughing fit, I'm feeling a lot better today!
May 30, 2018 2:47 AM # 
Bash:
Lung infections are temporary.

I know CO knows this and is joking, but in case there are any impressionable folks out there, there are good reasons not to race with a chest cold. A close family member had congestive heart failure at my age, believed to have been caused by a virus that infected her heart. She survived but never regained the lost heart function.
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May 30, 2018 2:49 AM # 
Bash:
@Simpy, good for you and Nate! When you said he dabbed at CPs, at first I thought you meant the dance move, which actually sounded like a fun idea at his age. ;) It was great to see you both. Thanks for volunteering and congrats on your race!
May 30, 2018 5:49 PM # 
Mr Wonderful:
Attendance isn't spectacular for my next event, which permits me the luxury of doing high capacity sticks per person. How are they attached at the World Rogaine Champs?

That or there is some temptation to deploy a lone digital camera at an unspecified checkpoint, and require a selfie or DQ.

Keep getting better, Bash!
May 30, 2018 8:47 PM # 
Bash:
Thanks, Mr. W! When we did a mountain marathon in Sweden, a volunteer attached an SI card to each of us the night before the race. It was a non-removable wristband and she made sure of that! I had to use my other hand to direct the card into the hole. We were required to punch within 15 seconds of one another but all they checked at the finish was that we both had all the punches. They used the times from the first person to download. I guess they could check later to see if there were any huge discrepancies. It ensured that we were both standing right beside the control before either of us dared to punch because 15 seconds is not very long when you're fussing with an SI card on a wristband!

May 30, 2018 8:52 PM # 
Bash:
I've also done an ARWS race where we had to take a photo in front of each CP number - two photos per CP so that all team members were shown (selfies were not as easy then). Actually we took 4 photos because organizers strongly suggested carrying two cameras in case of a problem with one.
May 30, 2018 8:56 PM # 
Bash:
#Throwback

May 30, 2018 9:19 PM # 
'Bent:
"I'll talk to Storm about making use of the boat compound wristbands for manual punch proof that all 4 teammates punched at a few random CPs that you don't know require all to punch until you get there (but it's all the out and back ones). This will slow down the finish line as we verify, but if we get another volunteer just to check this one thing, I'll bet we'd have teams staying closer together, at least the ones who want a medal."

Sounds like a good idea- random checkpoints where everyone needs to punch their wristband. You could do what DGL does with Matrix checkpoints- you can't punch out with SI at the manned CP of the section until the staff there have verified your team's punches. It would save you doing it at the finish. In this case they'd have to show the wristbands to punch out of CP6.
May 30, 2018 9:27 PM # 
Bash:
Good ideas - both of you!

This seriously wasn't a big deal for me but I respect that team racers have more skin in the game. In cases where teams were separated by just a few minutes, a few additional tweaks to enforce togetherness could switch the rankings around.
May 30, 2018 9:33 PM # 
'Bent:
Yep, it didn't make a difference for us at all, but I'd feel bad for a team that was trying hard but was beaten narrowly by one that took liberties.

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