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in: chitownclark; chitownclark > 2018-07-08

Jul 8, 2018 11:53 PM # 
matzah ball:
you took on the whole community?
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Jul 9, 2018 10:33 AM # 
chitownclark:
It seemed that way at that early hour. A white guy with golf clubs on a local bus is an unusual sight. And prompts some folks to ask for a handout; occasionally I'm attacked. But I'm a big guy, and haven't yet seen any serious weapons.

The rise of cell phones is especially annoying; you don't know whether someone next to you is speaking to you, on the phone with a hidden mic, or just babbling mindlessly.

At that hour on Sunday morning, it is usually the third option.
Jul 15, 2018 10:26 AM # 
Soupbone:
WTF, you not getting along with your neighbors again?

You might want to start carrying a sword or something in you golk bag.

Can you see if someone is giving you a hard time and you pull out a sword. I want to be there for that!!
Jul 15, 2018 10:42 AM # 
chitownclark:
Well in the City, you can't really pull out a weapon, even if you feel threatened. Remember Bernhard Goetz in 1984?

...The four men that Goetz shot were carrying screwdrivers so they could steal quarters from Pac-Man machines at video arcades. Goetz testified that he was threatened to give up $5. Two of the victims, Canty and Ramseur, said they were only panhandling. Cabey did not testify. He had been shot once at point blank range and was paralyzed from the waist down. In 1996, he would win a $43 million civil judgment against Goetz....

Goetz went to jail for shooting up a pack of young blacks on a subway that surrounded him and asked for money. I've been in similar situations where I've been physically assaulted by black guys. But they all ended peacefully when other passengers came to my defense. After all, I'm an old white-haired man! And I came out unharmed, even though my glasses were knocked off, and a cup of Starbucks knocked out of my hand. I remain very thankful that these situations didn't escalate any further.

My attacks on the L system when traveling through black neighborhoods were definitely racial...I wouldn't have been singled out as a target if I weren't the only white person in the train. But having been raised a Quaker, I think the intelligent response to attacks, is something other than violence....despite the current thinking in our country.
Jul 15, 2018 10:08 PM # 
matzah ball:
the surprising part to me is sunday morning. i've ridden my bike a lot in 'rough' neighborhoods and never been bothered...but avoiding perceived trouble times, like friday late afternoon for instance. sunday morning would have been my pick for the safest time of all. (and on a bike there is a lot more manuevering room). The only time I can remember being confronted on public transit was not in st. louis, but oddly enough many years ago in the evening on a bus in the....south side of chicago.
Jul 15, 2018 10:34 PM # 
chitownclark:
Early in the morning, the primary L riders are homeless guys, who sleep overnight on the trains. So at 5am Sunday, they rule.

The L system used to have their own security force. But they were folded into the Chicago Police Dept, and now, the L system gets very little attention. The CPD are too busy stopping and killing people on the streets to have much time to worry about what is happening on buses and trains.

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