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Discussion: Rogaine

in: hughmac⁴; hughmac⁴ > 2018-07-07

Jul 10, 2018 1:00 PM # 
Who are the Gummy Bears? I guess there’s no way to see who’s registered for this event. I backed into doing it: Procrastinated on entering, wasn’t really even thinking about it, but I did fairly well at the Fahnestock 8-hr, and Phil B and Ken W got me thinking about CNYO again. So at the last second before the entry deadline I sent CNYO an email, “Not really dying to do this, but if you have any odd person left out who needs a partner, I could be talked into it, as long as its 6 or 12 hr, not 24.” Well wouldn’t you know, there was one Pennsylvanian left over needing a partner—for the 24. I fell for it. 12 is my previous longest! See you there.
Jul 10, 2018 3:31 PM # 
I'm glad to see you'll be there, Steve! Way to Go for It. CNYO Rogaine is a really special event. What's your team name?

Sam Kolins and I are the Gummy Bear Overlords. We placed 2nd a few years ago with a fairly weak field, and hope to be competitive again this year. Fingers crossed on the weather! Looks like some chance of thunderstorms, otherwise pretty nice.

See you at the start!
Jul 11, 2018 4:10 AM # 
With Yaki Barak, so naturally we are Yakking and Tarrying. Yaki has a nice writeup of his experience at last year's event.
Jul 11, 2018 2:47 PM # 
Awesome writeup! Thanks! I'm getting pretty excited.

Here's my short writeup and course from 2015, in case it's of interest.

See you Saturday!!
Jul 11, 2018 6:10 PM # 
It's always interesting to see other folk's writeups, I enjoyed reading that. Alas the map link no longer works, wish I could see that.

Interesting (and a bit scary) about the blisters and swollen ankles and cow poop soak. My teammate is urging me to use compression socks, he had blister and swollen foot issues last year.

And I had a similar experience last year except that it did in fact progress to infection. It started with blisters whose cause I am still puzzling over, but I tentatively attribute them to an allergic reaction to something (insoles?) in a new pair of trail running shoes I was wearing. No long runs involved, just a whole bunch of regular 15-minute to two-hour orienteering courses practically every day over a month--the week of meets leading up to US champs in Idaho last year, followed immediately by two weeks of orienteering in Estonia and Finland, followed by a week of orienteering in Ontario.

The blisters got worse and and worse over the month, although it wasn't a totally steady progression, some days worse, some not as bad. I couldn't correlate the bad days or less bad days with anything in particular. The O-shoes were my regular ones (VJ Integrator High-Top), I didn't think they'd suddenly cause trouble. But the trail shoes (Saucony Peregrine) were brand new so that was certainly suspicious. During this time, I was only running in them in the sprint-O events (about one a week over that month)--but I was using them as my daily sneakers for most of that month, particularly in Europe where I didn't have any other shoes.

The blisters/rash looked just like a poison ivy rash, but I was quite sure I wasn't getting poison ivy just on the soles of my feet! (Not to mention it doesn't exist in Europe.) So I finally concluded that it was probably an allergic reaction to the trail shoes, and with hindsight I am guessing that like poison ivy, there was a delayed reaction of several days between the exposure and the rash, making it hard to correlate the reaction with the cause.

Anyway, by the time of the Canadian O-week, my right foot started getting even more swollen than the other (even without any cow poop soak), and redder and redder. By the third to last event of the 10-day event (COC middle) I was able to get around the course in something approximating my usual pace, but after I finished the pain was so high I could hardly walk, the swelling was huge, and the whole right foot was bright red. I might have been foolish enough to try to stick it out for the last two days (my two favorite events, long and relay) but an O-doctor friend (Peter Z's mom) took a look at it and said, "Get yourself to an emergency room NOW before you lose the foot." They gave me an intravenous antibiotic followed up with oral; my doc back home didn't like the way it was progressing and gave me a 2nd antibiotic.

Funny thing is, I liked the fit and feel of those trail shoes so much (it's so hard to find shoes that fit just right, and it's so important), that a couple of months later, after everything was totally healed up, I ran the shoes through the washing machine with hot water and plenty of detergent, on the theory that the allergenic substance was something oily just as the poison ivy allergen is an oil that you can wash out of your clothes with hot water and liberal detergent. And I've been wearing those shoes ever since with no problem! So either the washing removed the allergen, or the original cause was something other than the insole of those shoes--but I don't know what else it would be.

That's all a long-winded way of saying, you were right to be concerned that heavily blistered feet might become infected!

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