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Discussion: Oh no!

in: Hammer; Hammer > 2018-07-26

Jul 26, 2018 1:57 PM # 
... that sucks. My kids are still pre-social media, and I'm not looking forward to the future in that regard.

I've found that my little world of AP has been immune from these kinds of crap ... but I'm (kind of happily) not NA famous, either.

I didn't see the comment, and I don't know your daughter other than vicariously, but I'm confident that Emma is awesome enough to not let it get her down. That's no free pass for the a-hole, though.

From a practical standpoint: @ken, perhaps users should have the (default) option to only allow 'Favorites' (or the 'friends' feature? That's cumbersome, tho) to post comments in their personal log? I'd likely not turn that on, but I could see it being useful for some.
Jul 26, 2018 2:49 PM # 
This kind of thing is really frustrating to see, definitely not what this place is supposed to be about. I'm angry and sorry that it's happening.

There is indeed a way to restrict access to log comments, which applies to both reading and posting. Settings > Edit permissions > Log Comments. You can use the "just friends" option to setup a white-list of who is allowed. (The reason for an inclusion rather than exclusion list is to prevent persistent a--holes from just creating new unblocked accounts.) Permissions settings were originally a bonus feature, but everyone has access to them as of early this year...seemed essential.

Definitely open to other ideas as well.
Jul 26, 2018 2:54 PM # 
Ah, cool, didn't realize that applied to posting, as well. I like the granularity, @ken, but it's a bit unwieldy ... would it be possible to add a 'just Favorites' option? That's extremely easy to manage (generally already managed day-to-day).
Jul 26, 2018 4:27 PM # 
Seems a good time to mention the chickenify extension.
Jul 26, 2018 4:38 PM # 
Ohh, that is cool: Attackpoint Enhancement Suite
Jul 26, 2018 7:52 PM # 
That's seriously crossing a line. If the person can be identified (which they probably can't), it probably warrants a formal complaint to their home federation. I'd certainly take an extremely dim view of it if any Australian member was found to be engaging in that sort of conduct.
Jul 26, 2018 8:29 PM # 
Wait, was this the same username as before, or a different one? In other words, is it the one who apologized or someone else? Pretty awful in either case.
Jul 26, 2018 9:35 PM # 
Similar username, but different account.
Jul 26, 2018 10:44 PM # 
Thanks Ken!
Jul 27, 2018 4:04 AM # 
I've always thought of AP as being a safe place, and generally self-moderating precisely because it's such a public forum, but watching this whole situation unfold online over the past couple of weeks has rather saddened me. I wouldn't like AP to become readable only by members, though...have noticed a few people taking up the option of limiting the readership of their personal logs, which is understandable.
Jul 27, 2018 9:30 AM # 
A block button? Reporting button?
Jul 27, 2018 5:46 PM # 
This just makes me sad. What is wrong with people?
I hope Emma realizes that the vast majority of us on AP are thrilled for her.

I like the idea of a block or reporting button. (Can users be banned for bad behavior? Wouldn't they then just create new accounts though? hmm) On my blog I have the ability to delete comments (never used it) -- maybe something like that? Though of course it could be up there for a while before the log owner sees it...
Jul 27, 2018 7:25 PM # 
How could ANYONE not be thrilled for AdventureGirl? Somebody has MAJOR issues. Sad, disgusting, but so feeble and inconsequential. I hope the person gets help.
Jul 27, 2018 8:37 PM # 
Maybe new users should be approved by an other old or already approved user to get privilege to make comments. "Approved by" could possibly also be seen so anyone could check the chain to figure who should know a user if there is trolling (or maybe chain could be seen by admin only). If someone wants to stay entirely anonymous then just no commenting privilege. Simply asking approval from a friend and asking him/her not to tell anyone who he/she is would work too to stay and comment anonymously, but that also means no anonymous trolling just like that because pressure would be on the person who approved the troll. O community is rather small and AP already wide enough so I think feature like that would not restrict AP expansion that much - might just be the opposite.
Aug 1, 2018 8:17 PM # 
Damn! The possibly different person in the discussion thread who apologized after some reflection was bad enough. The kind of asshole who would go to her personal log to anonymously make similar comments is hard to imagine.
Aug 2, 2018 5:11 AM # 
Grrrr. It's not AP's fault but it sucks that it's happening here in our safe, friendly (mostly!) community. I like the idea of a reporting process as a starting point. A persistent troll could just keep creating accounts but if Ken kept deleting them, surely he/she would give up eventually.

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