Yesterday I listened to his terrific 90-minute interview with Billy Yang, recorded last week before he knew whether he'd be running Leadville. He was almost hoping the organizers would say no since he wasn't sure if he was ready. Apparently, he was! I will look up the Ginger Runner too.
I tried to listen to the Billy Yang podcast with Rob, but I was doing it while running and it was just too slow/down for me to continue. Definitely one to listen to in the car or when I'm around the house.
I was driving. Yes, probably not enough energy to fuel a run!
I probably should have mentioned that I found it interesting more from the point of view of an articulate, intelligent person explaining what it's like to deal with depression and suicidal thoughts, rather than an elite runner talking about his sport.