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in: PBricker; PBricker > 2007-12-02;

#  Posted 2007-12-03 04:07:20
cmorse: I probably could have, and considered trying to overtake the crowd as I was gaining on you coming up to the fireplace, but decided with the cold I just didn't feel up to putting in the effort.

You had a great race, I kept catching glimpses of you during the day and though I certainly wasn't running fast today, I was surprised to see you every once and a while. Same deal with some other folks too like JJ and Tim - I expected them to be way ahead and then I'd see them from time to time...

#  Posted 2007-12-03 05:47:10
PBricker: Save it for running down PG in the chute at Valley Forge!

#  Posted 2007-12-03 15:56:55
cmorse: Say, if I go out at 7am (2 hour head start) I just might able to do that!

#  Posted 2007-12-03 17:42:56
jjcote: So who has a faster marathon PR, Phil or PG? Sounds like it's probably pretty close.

#  Posted 2007-12-03 17:51:19
PG: I'm pretty sure it's Phil. Mine is 2:57:34.

#  Posted 2007-12-03 20:42:49
PBricker: Mine is also 2:57 and change, but I'd have to look it up (I'm at work) to see if it's faster than Peter's. What's amusing is that not only are we this close in our marathon PR's, our mile PR's are the same or within a second of each other: mine being 5:01.

#  Posted 2007-12-04 04:22:17
PG: 5:01 point what? Mine is 5:01.8 so I imagine you've got me. On the other hand, my marathon time was at Boston in 1995, no indication of a net time from using chips. I think I got across the start line pretty quickly, maybe within 30 seconds....

At the other end of the spectrum, my 100-mile PR is 18:33 and I'm pretty sure I've got you there.

#  Posted 2007-12-04 05:50:17
PBricker: 5:01.5. Ha! It was 1994 on the Smith track at a Sugarloaf meet.

And 2:57:17. Ha, ha! Also gross time, not net; but it was the Boston Peace Marathon (1987), and not much time lost to the start.

As to my 100-mile PR: can I add up two 50's?

#  Posted 2007-12-04 06:02:27
Charlie: As long as you include the time in between!

#  Posted 2007-12-04 06:50:22
walk: Ah - the Boston Peace Marathon. Did it in '85 and was also my PR but not very close to you two. Give me twenty minutes and I'm almost there.

#  Posted 2007-12-05 02:08:39
tp: I have to interject (a day late - this probably won't be seen) that I too did my marathon PR at the Boston Peace Marathon in '85 or '86 (don't know if it was held in more than one year). I'm pretty sure it was 2:54:35 (after just failing to break 3 hours a few times before) -- I recall a tail wind and nice familiar roads. That was my last marathon too -- hung it up and got into this more entertaining form of exercise.

#  Posted 2007-12-05 02:36:47
walk: When I did the Peace, there was a tail wind and it seemed to be downhill all the way into Boston proper. Then we turned into the wind to go around the Fens (?) and then up over the hill by the Common. This was my comeback marathon after bonking in Montreal 8 weeks earlier - improved that time by 30'. It may also have been my last or close to it as feet and knee problems became more than just a slight problem. Didn't hear about O for another 10 yrs but did join a group of road bikers for a daily hard ride.

#  Posted 2007-12-05 06:29:53
PBricker: I wish I had started orienteering back then, in the 80's. I probably did another fifteen marathons after the Peace marathon, but only managed to break 3 hours one more time (in 1995, official time: 2:59:59!). The Peace marathon was definitely good for a PR: it had some early hills over the first 10 miles, but then downhill and flat into Boston with one final hill before the finish. I think '87 was the last year of just three, and the only time I did it. I used that as my qualifier for Boston in '88, went out the first half on pace to run sub 2:55 (which I thought I was fit enough to do) and totally bonked, finishing in around 3:09.

#  Posted 2007-12-05 07:24:37
barb: buncha hippies! "Peace" marathon?

#  Posted 2007-12-05 07:47:51
walk: Billy Rodgers and Joan Benoit were sponsors, of some sort, when I did it. They were at the awards ceremony in Faneuil (sp) Hall and may even have made some kind of presentation. I do remember that I was able to shake hands with both of them. Why they would want to associate with grotty sweaty runners is now beyond me.

Yeah! Even then, we were still trying to give peace a chance.

#  Posted 2007-12-05 08:26:17
PBricker: I don't recall anything about the marathon having to do with "peace" other than the name. There's some info on the Cape Cod Marathon site; apparently the Peace marathon ran four years from 1985-1988, and drew upwards of 1,000 runners, thereby threatening the existence of the smaller, fledgling Cape Cod marathon in Falmouth. There's also mention of it in an article by Don Allison but I think he has things mixed up because he says 1987 was torrential rain, and 1988 was so cold the water in the cups froze. In '87 I didn't get wet but it was near freezing at the start.

#  Posted 2007-12-05 21:04:57
PBricker: So much for memory. I checked the actual record and it turns out my 2:57:17 was the net time (on my watch); the official time was ... 2:57:32. Phew, that was close!

#  Posted 2007-12-06 03:08:03
PG: Well, I'll have to wait to see what might be in my log book, hopefully a note saying I took at least 18 seconds to cross the starting line.

I had my own tale of woe at the Peace Marathon, tried it once, 1987, went out too fast, died, packed it in at 17 miles. Cold day if I remember correctly.

#  Posted 2007-12-08 05:08:42
bl: I'm surprised Tracy beat you, tiger that she evidentally is.

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