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in: Becks; Becks > 2018-09-14

Sep 14, 2018 4:38 PM # 
Kitch:
vote for independence
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Sep 14, 2018 4:53 PM # 
Becks:
It's definitely playing more and more on our minds. It's the only place we want to be longterm.
Sep 15, 2018 8:25 PM # 
Big Jon:
Do it :-) you won't regret it one moment.
Sep 16, 2018 5:37 PM # 
Becks:
Got to get the right job!
Sep 16, 2018 8:39 PM # 
Cristina:
Sorry about the massholes. :-( I think we’ve managed to insulate ourselves pretty well by hiding in Cambridgeport but I know they’re still out there. There’s a serious lack of prioritizing people over cars around here.
Sep 17, 2018 5:28 PM # 
Becks:
It's more than just being Massholes. That name is too playful for people that regularly disregard to rights of others to stay healthy because they are legally delaying their progress to work for 30 seconds.
Sep 17, 2018 5:41 PM # 
Cristina:
Massholes-with-a-deadly-disregard-for-human-life-who-should-be-stripped-of-their-license-to-drive
Sep 17, 2018 8:54 PM # 
Becks:
That is more accurate :D
Sep 18, 2018 6:59 AM # 
Suzanne:
You could buy a Vespa/Buddy and fly past them while they're stuck in traffic :)
Sep 18, 2018 7:00 AM # 
Suzanne:
Sep 18, 2018 2:10 PM # 
Becks:
I feel like that puts me in a similar danger zone as cycling, it's not too appealing.
Sep 18, 2018 3:42 PM # 
Suzanne:
I take it back...scootered to work today since I'm going to a dentist appt after. Bikes are so much faster and more pleasant.
Sep 18, 2018 3:43 PM # 
Suzanne:
And, agree that it sucks that the culture still assumes that cars & drivers are preferred and all others are in their way.
Sep 19, 2018 2:10 AM # 
rachael:
I reckon about 25% of cars actually stop at the cross walk/zebra crossing we use on our way to daycare. A significant proportion of people are in their phone. A month or so ago a women wound down her window and shouted at me “don’t fucking do that to your kids” - as if crossing the road at the marked zebra crossing with flashing lights is a bad thing to do?? I was fuming. I just put it down to living in a big city...
Sep 19, 2018 10:26 AM # 
blairtrewin:
What happens to you in Massachusetts if you manage to squash a pedestrian on a zebra crossing while on the phone? (Whatever it is, it doesn't sound like it's much of a deterrent).

Australian drivers can be very aggressive towards cyclists - anyone who's ridden for long here knows what the expression "get off the f***ing road you f***ing c**t" sounds like when shouted out of a window at 60+ km/h - but they do usually observe zebra crossings.
Sep 19, 2018 12:53 PM # 
Becks:
I just learned today that apparently texting while driving is illegal in Massachusetts but talking on your phone is not?!? WTF?!? As long as you have ‘one hand on the wheel and it is not impeding your ability to drive.’

https://www.candsins.com/blog-post/cell-phone-driv...

Ari, who’s working on changing this?! Looking at google there has been numerous failed attempts.


Rach, can’t believe someone would do that around the boys! Who are these people?!?
Sep 19, 2018 3:46 PM # 
acjospe:
I chalk it up to there being jerks everywhere, but that's terrible, Rachel.

This city doesn't feel worse to me than other large cities I've been in, with the advantage here being that I know the routes that will be less trafficked. I've yet to be masturbated at, spat at, or chased here, but I have been hit by a car that wasn't looking forward while turning left.

I'm way less scared riding my bike in the city than out on roads where people are going 2-3 times as fast and passing me just as closely, all the while just as distracted by their phones. But I also think I'm much more comfortable riding in city traffic than most people.

Supposedly not stopping for a pedestrian in a crosswalk is punishable by a fine of <=$200. As for actually squashing a pedestrian in a crosswalk, the law says:

Whenever a pedestrian is injured by a motor vehicle in a marked crosswalk, the department of state police or the municipal police department with jurisdiction of the street, in consultation with department of state police if deemed appropriate, shall conduct an investigation into the cause of the injury and any violation of this section or other law or ordinance and shall issue the appropriate civil or criminal citation or file an application for the appropriate criminal complaint, if any. This section shall not limit the ability of a district attorney or the attorney general to seek an indictment in connection with the operation of a motor vehicle which causes injury or death and which violates this section.

Easiest way to commit murder in this country is to make sure you're driving a car at the time.
Sep 19, 2018 4:11 PM # 
ndobbs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltrop
Sep 19, 2018 4:47 PM # 
Becks:
I'm super comfortable riding in city traffic in the UK. New Haven was okay too, though still worse than the UK. But here is another level of danger. I think the fact I have to do Sullivan Square to make cycling worth it amplifies the feeling of danger though. There are bits of the route that are just fine, but it never feels worth THAT!
Sep 19, 2018 7:32 PM # 
Suzanne:
Personally I'm much more comfortable biking in SF than in Cambridge, primarily because of the Massachusetts habit to "bang a left" before most traffic goes straight. Having people gunning it off the line, racing to get in front of the on coming traffic, gives me little faith that they're going to notice the cyclist going straight. Drivers just don't "bang lefts" in SF (or New York...or Saint Louis...or anywhere else I've lived).

It's honestly a concern I have in considering moving to Cambridge someday
Sep 19, 2018 8:08 PM # 
Kitch:
it all sounds pure fucking mental
Sep 19, 2018 8:23 PM # 
Becks:
It really is. When I think back to 7+ years of cycling every day in Oxford and Edinburgh, I very clearly remember 1 incident where I had right of way, but would have been fucked if the driver hadn't slammed on his brakes at the last minute (he was pulling on to the roundabout down by the Western General, I was already on the roundabout). Something of that level happens to me every week of cycling in Boston - sometimes more than once a trip. It's rubbish. So I stopped apart from in very clear places where the ride is mostly off road (such as Kendall to work).
Sep 19, 2018 8:38 PM # 
feet:
I'm not sure New Haven was that much better. https://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/arch...
Sep 19, 2018 9:06 PM # 
Cristina:
I feel ill reading the description of the crash in that story.
Sep 19, 2018 9:33 PM # 
Becks:
My god, that is terrible. And reminds me that when I was hit by a Prius driving in the dark with no lights on, the New Haven PD report said it was my fault. It sounds like this is their standard for much worse accidents too.

Just ugh. Ugh ugh ugh.
Sep 19, 2018 11:27 PM # 
blairtrewin:
Perhaps worse was that the one person who has been prosecuted under the law which wasn't invoked in the New Haven case was fined the bank-breaking sum of $50.
Sep 19, 2018 11:43 PM # 
Cristina:
I think more motivating than the threat of a fine (even if it were bigger) would be the threat of losing your license (even if temporary). Seems like plowing through a group of preschoolers *in a crosswalk* should, at the very least, merit a temporary suspension of driving privileges.
Sep 20, 2018 4:40 AM # 
Suzanne:
How can sending a preschooler to the hospital with internal bleed not be sufficiently serious?

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SF certainly has it's problems too. I personally knew one man who was killed while walking across a street on his way to work (driver on cell phone). And a friend of a friend was walking his bike in the sidewalk when killed by a car fleeing the police, and the car drove up onto the sidewalk.

I wish biking was safe. But, you'd think we'd *at least* be able to agree as a society that you should have the right to walk on sidewalks and across streets without risking your life.

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How about anywhere a pedestrian gets hit a speed bump gets added to the roads (with a space for bike wheels to miss the bump). It's a self-correcting problems. More speedbumps until nobody gets hit. And, just as all pedestrians would share the risk of being pedestrians, all drivers would share the repercusions of any pedestrian getting hit. :)
Sep 21, 2018 10:31 AM # 
Kitch:
2 days ago in the Evening News
a future vision for traffic free city centre
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/air-po...
Sep 21, 2018 12:46 PM # 
Becks:
What's your e mail now Kitch?
Sep 21, 2018 2:41 PM # 
Kitch:
still talktalk

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