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Discussion: Interesting project!

in: Ricka; Ricka > 2019-02-02

Feb 8, 2019 4:19 AM # 
Suzanne:
Interesting project!
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Feb 8, 2019 9:50 PM # 
Ricka:
By HSP rules, backpackers can only camp in one of the 3 designated backpack campsites first-come, first-served, and camp fires are not allowed [outside of campground and picnic areas]. Both rules are violated but there is not the desire or manpower to enforce them. Also, current sites are often full and hikers have found other 'convenient' sites. Supt Ed is suggesting about 3 more sites [perhaps including one for large groups, eg scouts] and creating a permit system for them. Policies are evolving in a flexible manner. We were looking for sites which were flat, appealing, not too close to trail, and fairly close to water -- map reading is useful!

Also, since most of the park is designated 'wilderness', rules allow only a 2-week window in winter for chain saws or motorized vehicles for trail maintenance. The 2 weeks must be designated in advance of weather forecasts. We are in the midst of that window now -- with several rainy or very cold days. I might volunteer at least one more day. On the 5-mile north loop, there were about 10-12 downed logs which would require a chainsaw to remove.
Feb 8, 2019 10:19 PM # 
chitownclark:
Why not leave those logs...as an obstruction for wheeled vehicles? As long as HSP rangers won't enforce, those logs will!
Feb 8, 2019 11:48 PM # 
Ricka:
Except perhaps on the power line strip that splits the park, HSP does not have an ATV problem nor MB issues. Locals love the park and ATV'er's have lots of nearby Mark Twain NF land to chew up (literally & illegally). Also, neighbors of the park protect their private land [with some great rock formations] with shotguns. In NF, I've found nail strips on illegal ATV trails next to private land.
Many hikers and backpackers probably prefer that the 1-2 foot diameter logs be removed. If not removed, hikers will reroute the trail around the log - worsening the problem.

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