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Discussion: The early worm ... is a lark's breakfast

in: BrandNewMe; BrandNewMe > 2019-03-28

Mar 28, 2019 9:56 PM # 
You're off 20mins after me. Just let me know which brambles you need knocking done.
Mar 28, 2019 10:02 PM # 
I’ve done enough of the early split start squads at SOLs (along with Colin, Brad and Jase, every time!) to know that at big events the early bird just gets pissed off.
Mar 28, 2019 11:05 PM # 
I have asked to change classes. Shame, but I am not paying £28 to act as someone else’s personal lawn mower.
Mar 29, 2019 7:27 AM # 
C’mon, stick to elite. I don’t remember any brambles on Mytchett, and wifey will be v disappointed not to be running against somebody else holding up the flag for W40.

I thought it was Jon X doing the seeding? Used to be anyway.
Mar 29, 2019 7:30 AM # 
It is a bit odd though, as you’re in the last 15 for the sprint. Sure you didn’t accidentally ask for an early start on the middle?
Mar 29, 2019 8:17 AM # 
World ranking apparently. And I have done no world ranking whatsoever, whereas anyone that got around last years jk would have got some points so start before me. Whereas the sprint, GG does his Masterplan Adventure sprints here in Scotland so I accumulate sprint world ranking points without even thinking about it. I have recall running three times with emitag things, and each time I have mispunched so I don’t know why I am fussed.

I shouldn’t be such a primadonna. Scott once started woc long with no world ranking points, and started with people from South American countries who competed with rucksacks and hiking sticks.
Mar 29, 2019 8:41 AM # 
Just start early and show them who's boss. I really don't think there are many brambles on Mytchett, certainly not in the fiddly bits.
Mar 29, 2019 10:40 AM # 
Start window is 10:00-14:00, Your start is 11:58...
Mar 29, 2019 10:48 AM # 
I think they have different courses for different age classes at the jk tho Graeme. It’s where you start compared to the people you run against that counts. Like Ray had no complaints with his start time tomorrow (late, so the kids can do football before heading up), until he realised his wife was on the same course just a different map scale, starting 2 mins after him. Great motivation for me - sprint the start just to mug him for his bigger map.
Mar 29, 2019 11:16 AM # 
They do, but everyone uses the same controls. It won't surprise you that I've analysed this! Basically, first start and you're totally screwed, but after two hours of people stomping through the woods all the useful elephant tracks are established and undergrowth around controls is as bashed as its going to get. There's even a tiny downtick for very late starters who are less likely to have punters standing at controls giving them away.
Later runners do go faster, but most of that is self-reinforcing - their higher ranked - and due to trains. I reckon my (earlier than your) start time will cost me a couple of minutes, tops, much of it due to not getting a nice tow.
Anyway, its only a mickey-mouse-middle distance on Saturday - you'll have a late start time for the proper orienteering in Sunday ;)
Mar 29, 2019 11:17 AM # 
So you have to carry a heavier map than Ray! How's that fair?
Mar 29, 2019 11:27 AM # 
Yes, I am being a negative, grumpy primadonna, so am going to run W21e anyway. If it’s a nice enough area, it makes minimal difference, and there is something nice about being an early starter too - you get to the planners surprises first, I loathe running in trains and there is far less chance of that, there is no looking over your shoulder worrying about getting caught, and in my current state of fitness I’d be pleased to be within 5 mins of first even off a last start so if I haven’t taken care of the things I can control I have no right to be pissed off about the things I can’t.

Good to see you running more. Sunday run sometime?
Mar 29, 2019 12:09 PM # 
Yes, I should probably do a more-than-90 minute run before the JK!
Mar 29, 2019 1:53 PM # 
As a fellow early starter, I have always extracted some modicum of comfort in the knowledge that any and all tracks I batter through the bracken will be in entirely the wrong directions and thus potentially lead some of my competitors astray. Alas not through conscious effort, but through general ineptitude - so I'm not helping you here, am I?
Mar 30, 2019 10:02 AM # 
I'll bash the brambles for you! Not necessarily in the right direction though so watch out!!

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