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Discussion: Foothills Park

in: DWildfogel; DWildfogel > 2019-04-22

Apr 25, 2019 2:26 PM # 
chitownclark:
Interesting Chronicle article on Foothills Park. Off-limits to all but Palo Alto residents. Too bad; seems that would be some good O terrain. Part of the ongoing trend making the Peninsula more and more exclusive?
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Apr 26, 2019 12:23 AM # 
Charlie:
There was a rather celebrated Connecticut legal case about a residents only beach in Greenwich several years back. The town lost and it became illegal in Connecticut to have any residents-only recreational facilities. Our local swimming hole charges non-residents a fair amount more, but I am not sure how much, or how one decides how much is too much to meet the standard of providing access.
Apr 26, 2019 2:24 PM # 
chitownclark:
Only tangentially part of the same problem, but California has a massive homeless problem. It is hard to ignore, with homeless encamped all over the Bay Area.

California's new governor has committed to finding a solution. And one of his ideas is to rezone and sponsor construction of dense, affordable housing near existing transit. It will be interesting to watch these up-scale suburbs with 'no-growth' zoning and ordinances on their books, forced to accept 'others' into their schools and communities.

Clearly they haven't found a solution on their own; a NYTimes article this morning profiled a failed San Francisco plan to desegregate their schools.
Apr 27, 2019 1:32 AM # 
Geoman:
When I lived in Palo Alto many years ago, Foothills Park was one of my favorite places to run. This was before my Orienteering days. I remember it being pretty steep. Maybe even too steep for BAOC courses.
Apr 27, 2019 8:28 PM # 
chitownclark:
Really? Too steep for BAOC? Steeper than Joseph Grant on Mt Hamilton?

Where did you live in Palo Alto? I grew up near Sand Hill Road in Menlo Park. Went to Las Lomitas when it was transitioning from a one-room schoolhouse in 1948.
Apr 29, 2019 3:33 AM # 
Geoman:
I lived in Palo Alto/Menlo Park from about 1973 to 1979. Worked in San Francisco much of that time. Took the old Southern Pacific Train every morning. Didn’t get into O until the early 80’s when DWildfogel came out to visit from New Jersey and introduced it to me. My memory of Foothills Park is that it consists of a lake and a flat field bordered by steep hills.
Apr 30, 2019 12:35 AM # 
DWildfogel:
Geez, I stay away from my log for a week and you guys are having a party without me!
Apr 30, 2019 12:42 AM # 
DWildfogel:
Re Foothills Park: George's description fits my memory, too. And restriction to Palo Alto residents is not new: it was that way when I first came out here in 1967.

@Chitown: we consider Joe Grant to be one of the less steep venues we have in the Bay Area. Seriously.

For the Spring of '83, I was a Visiting Scholar at Stanford. I'd been in my first 3 O-meets in Fall, '82, all in DVOA territory. In Feb '83, went to my first BAOC meet. A month later, I took George (we'd known each other for over a dozen years by then, and had been housemates a few times) to his first-ever O-meet, at Las Trampas.
Apr 30, 2019 12:54 AM # 
Charlie:
Gee, if George's first meet was at Las Trampas, he showed some amazing fortitude to come back again. I got some really nasty poison oak the only time I orienteered there, sometime in the early 90s, I think, and in some substantial rain, too.
Apr 30, 2019 4:50 AM # 
DWildfogel:
Oh, yeah, we had a two-day A-meet there once a color map was made (for George's first meet, it was the old black-and-white map), and it poured both days and was generally quite miserable. As I recall, the walk to the start on the first day was enough to make you want to go home already.
Apr 30, 2019 4:35 PM # 
Geoman:
Yep, Dennis took me to my first O meet at Las Trampas in 1983. I ambitiously ran the Orange. Remember standing on a steep hill in driving rain, not having a clue where I was. The black and white USGS map had power lines on it so was eventually able to figure things out from that. This was a Bob Cooley set course. For a few years after that I stayed away from any meet where Bob set the courses.

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