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Discussion: West Point Results

in: 40th Annual West Point National Meet (Apr 27–28, 2019 - West Point, NY, US)

Apr 28, 2019 12:08 AM # 
Apr 28, 2019 12:20 AM # 
For you WinSplits aficionados, especially the speedy 60 yard dasher, here you go!

Middle Results by Classes

Middle Results by Courses

Sprint Results by Classes

Sprint Results by Courses
Apr 28, 2019 1:02 AM # 
Thanks Valerie, much appreciated!
Apr 28, 2019 1:06 AM # 
Wow Valerie! They needed you at the JK. Thanks for all your work on this!
Apr 28, 2019 1:10 AM # 
Always a great job. Thanks.
Apr 29, 2019 11:41 AM # 
RouteGadget for the Long has been posted to the same site above. Will have WinSplits and Overall Results by noon.
Apr 29, 2019 12:28 PM # 
Thanks, Valerie! Your dedication to prompt results is an example of how things ought to be, and it's so much fun to be a part of it.

Is there a separate course on routegadget for the red elite course? I don't see it in the list of options, but maybe it is lumped into something else. Thank you!
Apr 29, 2019 1:51 PM # 
Thanks, Valerie! You did an excellent job as always!! We so appreciate your expertise and dedication to a smooth (or seemingly smooth) results operation.
Apr 29, 2019 1:56 PM # 
Looking forward to seeing how those Red and Blue elite orienteers handled those very long LONG legs.
Apr 29, 2019 2:03 PM # 
Thank you. I do the easy part! I wouldn't want to have to get all those controls into the woods.

@alex - I will see why the Middle Red Elite didn't go through. Thanks for the heads up.
Apr 29, 2019 2:11 PM # 
FYI, for the Long - Red Elite and Blue can compare their routes by selecting All Courses in the drop down list, and picking the people they would like to see, though only those who have posted routes.
Apr 29, 2019 2:54 PM # 
Heads up the Red course on Routegadget is incorrect. But this takes nothing away from the great job you've done/do. Thank you.
Apr 29, 2019 3:07 PM # 
Thank you. It would be really helpful if you could tell me which Red course, please. :). Lots of file variations floating around, so I am not surprised.

OK, hang tight on the Long Red, and I will see if I can fix things without blowing the whole event away. :)
Apr 29, 2019 4:32 PM # 
I blame the course consultants. :-)

(You rock, Valerie. Thank you!)
Apr 29, 2019 4:53 PM # 
Where will overall (OE) results for all races be posted?
Apr 29, 2019 5:13 PM # 
OK, Alex, your Red F21E is available for the Middle now. I did a little something back office, so let me know if it works ok.

Working on the Long Red. Thanks to everyone who emailed/posted about the issue.
Apr 29, 2019 6:11 PM # 
For now, the results are at

Sending to USMAOC team as well.
Apr 29, 2019 6:29 PM # 
Long Results by Classes

Long Results by Courses
Apr 29, 2019 6:29 PM # 
Will post here when the Long Red RG has been reposted. Thank you for your patience.
Apr 29, 2019 6:36 PM # 
Does anyone have photo galleries from the meet...?
Apr 29, 2019 7:00 PM # 
I'm curious to know the story behind the helicopter in the middle of the woods on the blue long?
Apr 29, 2019 7:25 PM # 
Valerie. You're amazing. Thank you for your hard work!
Apr 29, 2019 7:29 PM # 
I am not sure if there is anything special about that helicopter (likely not). That helicopter, among others on other installations, is used for military training (simulating a downed helicopter). They are placed there after being retired from service and meeting other bureaucratic qualifications.

WP's maps have a few aircraft with at least one of which being actually crashed onto it.
Apr 29, 2019 9:14 PM # 
I believe the route shown in RouteGadget for Charlie DeWeese shows pretty clearly the limitations of using a wristwatch GPS to accurately track anything. The most obvious is his 3-4 leg where he did essentially the same thing I did (albeit much faster than I could). The line is clearly off to north and east: he had to have been running on the road and then turned up at the small re-entrant, then headed east. Many people did that (I followed some of them), and he surely would not have left the road where it shows in his track.

I bring this up because on a couple of occasions my mapping has been questioned by people using a wristwatch GPS to track their route, and wondering why it doesn't match up with the map. These things are useful for some purposes, butt they aren't very accurate. Not much better than the GPS in your phone.
Apr 29, 2019 11:01 PM # 
When looking at RouteGadget, I think there's also an issue with how the track gets aligned to the map (could be splits-based, could be manual). I think there's more going on than absolute positioning, though that's not perfect either.
Apr 30, 2019 3:04 PM # 

I think I have solved the issue for Red Long. Circles may be slightly off, since I melded two events together, but otherwise, let me know if there is still an issue.

Thank you for your patience.
Apr 30, 2019 3:25 PM # 
Were there any photos taken at the event?
Apr 30, 2019 5:09 PM # 
Thank you.

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