I ended up 370 out of 4260 so still top 10% and I was 12th in the age group of 87 so that stayed the same. A guy from St. Paul, Bill Treiber beat me by 10 seconds...chip time still 28:28. This is only about the 5th year they've had the 5K. I did not know that until yesterday.
I would have won the first one by nearly 2 minutes with my time yesterday and placed in top 4 all other years...this year I barely got 12th...there were a Michigan and CA runner ahead of me also...23:13 won...that's not too shabby for our age group...not that you can't run faster than that.
Only beat the top female in our age group by 5 seconds.
Marathon 2:39 M and 2:45 women (!)
1/2 1:10 men and 1:20 women...so really the men's marathon was the 'weakest' win of the long runs. 5K only 17:04 so not that impressive for 4K runners!
Checked next two age groups...65 up 28:44 so I would have won that one...but the 70 was incredible 25:52 wow.