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in: Rachel; Rachel > 2019-08-04

Aug 4, 2019 7:46 AM # 
Which club ended up winning the relays?
Aug 4, 2019 8:11 AM # 
Don't know. We were cold and wet so got changed and left for a BO lunch before hearing any result. Based on entries it would either be LOST or BO. Probably LOST since a couple of BO teams were mp's.
Aug 4, 2019 1:02 PM # 
As if anyone would know the result immediately after the event.

LOST had all the masters teams but none in the mixed, where BO usually dominates (not this year though). BO and KO would get all the open and mixed points. WOW looking pretty weak with only two of their six teams recording valid results.
Aug 4, 2019 2:36 PM # 
I haven't calculated anything, but it's got to be LOST. They had two more teams with a valid result than BO. A different point scale would make things a bit more interesting.
Aug 5, 2019 6:31 AM # 
Yep, the current system is fairly predictable. You just look at which club has the most teams in the entries and they will win. The club setting the relays is usually ruled out as that takes them down 1-2 teams.
BO wasn't too bad this year, with only two mp's, but last year we did our best to jazz up the predictions by having a reasonable number of teams but having almost every team mp'ing!
Aug 5, 2019 6:37 AM # 
Hardly a good result for BO tho' with two of the oldest hands MPing (Rob and myself) - I know I'm slow but at least I can usually be relied on to hit the right controls. Very peed off!
Aug 5, 2019 8:00 AM # 
LOST 165, BO 118, KO 101, WOW 39. Results for the Masters show positions not matching the times, but I think the positions are correct. The times are out because of the mass start, but the adjustments aren't shown in the results.

We knew we would dominate the Masters, particularly if the BO or WOW teams made mistakes - which they duly did. We picked fairly even teams, rather than put our top 4 or 6 runners in the same teams, and we could have had another 21 points if the last runner in Team 9 (who is a relative novice) hadn't accidentally missed out his second last control.

I was worried about our two teams of juniors in the Open, but they did pretty well.
Aug 5, 2019 10:31 AM # 
BO could have had more points if they had more teams.
Aug 5, 2019 11:49 AM # 
How did ADHOC go, or have they not had a team since I ran all 4 legs a couple of years ago?
Aug 5, 2019 11:51 AM # 
If they couldn't get anyone other than Tooms and Edmund to Kenine Hill, it's unlikely anyone would go to Perth.
Aug 5, 2019 2:15 PM # 
LOST would have been even stronger if some people didn't run off to far away places
Aug 5, 2019 11:06 PM # 
Ditto BO although Hadrien's exit wasn't planned - thanks Peter Dutton :-(
Aug 6, 2019 6:22 AM # 
Fletch, I gather that if they continue with their two-man raids on the remaining Championships there is a good chance that ADHOC will win the BO Trophy. Of course, this means that you need to stay away as extra runners will diminish their score.
Aug 6, 2019 7:54 AM # 
What happened to Hadrien?
Aug 6, 2019 8:13 AM # 
Manus Island vacation?
Aug 6, 2019 9:44 AM # 
Simmo - I’ll be staying away until at least next year.
Aug 13, 2019 1:31 AM # 
BO Trophy? That'd be a bit silly, a little embarrassing if ADHOC won, mainly because it'd be such a blatant 'unlikely' scenario of a handicap taken to an extreme. I'll have to look up the BO Trophy rules now...

In retrospect, having seen a similar situation in Triathlon where they took the champion club from the average score (minimum 10 members) in the interclub champs, it actually WAS effective as the tiny clubs scrabbled together the minimum 10 to take part, and the big clubs had their total score divided by whatever they had, 50 - 100! Mind you, they also had the overall winner, which was not a handicap i.e. most points.

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