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Discussion: Dates confirmed?

in: POSTPONED - Canadian Orienteering Champs (Jul 10–12 - Cranbrook, BC, CA)

Oct 1, 2019 5:07 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Are the dates (July 11-12, 2020) still correct for this?

I'm seeing this event here (obviously) and it's also listed on a few club schedules. But I don't see anything on the hosting club's website (KOC) nor on Orienteering Canada's website.

Also, can anyone confirm that Western Canadians will be in Alberta the previous weekend? (July 4-5, 2020). I found this unofficial reference.

Here in WA, we're firming up our summer 2020 schedules, and it would be useful to know the confirmed dates of big events nearby. Thanks!
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Oct 2, 2019 3:18 PM # 
upnorthguy:
I am not officially involved in either race, but those COC dates are what is on the event postcard I have (actually July 11-13). And I heard recently from one of the westerns organizers that the dates were likely to be July 4-5.
Oct 2, 2019 4:47 PM # 
o-maps:
In a fit of presumptuousness (as someone with no connection to the event other than being a probable attendee), it was I who added this AttackPoint event for the 2020 Canadians, a month or so ago, based on the Edmonton Overlanders Planning CalendarI found via some Google'ing (like Pink Socks, I didn't find anything at O Canada).

And I added a few other events such as Napa Go 2020 (including some incorrect information, but, as was my intention, the real organizers promptly took over the event entry I started and updated it--hopefully the COC organizers will do likewise). It's not too early to have these events listed; long distance travel needs major lead time. Being in California for the 2019 OUSA Nationals got me thinking about my 2020 calendar, centered around the NAOC in California, and the handiest way for me to organize my O schedule is to check off AttackPoint events and have them show up on my log.

The Western Canadians weren't on that EOOC planning list a month ago, in fact, I think it was just in the last few days they were added. That's an attractive event for me to add to my itinerary too (it's wonderful being retired!) so I'll presumptuously add it to the AP event list, too. But rather than discuss further here the appropriateness of my doing this, I think I'll start a general thread on the protocol for listing events. So if anyone wants to slap my hand or thank me for adding these events to AP, wait a few minutes until I get that thread started and do it there.

So back to the actual subject of this thread, the COCs show up on that EOOC planning list as 3 days (Sat.-Sun.-Mon.), as upnorthguy notes, I presume to accommodate Sprint-Middle-Long. Here's hoping they fit in a relay somehow too.
Oct 2, 2019 5:13 PM # 
bchubb:
I'm making new maps for both events, but otherwise am not involved with the organizing.

Upon checking though, I have been told there is a meeting tonight to confirm dates for the WCOCs so can update tomorrow. Am still waiting for a response re COCs but suspect the dates are as posted.
Oct 2, 2019 6:39 PM # 
gordhun:
bchubb: Can you tell us where will be WCOC? Not to scout the area but the sooner I can get in ticket requests to Aeroplan the better the chance of using up some points.
Oct 2, 2019 6:54 PM # 
bchubb:
Bow Valley/Kananaskis -That's an hour west of Calgary but I guess you know that ;-)

If it's confirmed as the weekend before the COCs as proposed, it will then be a scenic drive through Banff and Kootenay National Parks, past Radium Hot Springs, to Kimberley/Cranbrook for the COCs.
Oct 2, 2019 11:43 PM # 
John Chatwin:
KOC: The dates for the 2020 COC's are now : July 10, 11 12.
Oct 3, 2019 12:14 AM # 
dbakker:
FYI: John Chatwin is the event director for this event, so those dates are accurate. Ive updated the attackpoint dates appropriately.
Oct 3, 2019 2:23 AM # 
Hammer:
It is really unfortunate that the 2020 COCs are a direct conflict with WOC. Wearing my organizer hat i am happy we have have volunteers hosting this race in such wonderful terrain and I understand that these dates were likely chosen to get a participation bump from CAL O-Fest.

But the OC HPP lists the 2020 COCs as an “important race” for WG 2021 selections. So it makes for an unfortunate situation as Canada’s top sprinters will be at WOC and will be missing a national championship and a potential selection race for the World Games.
Oct 3, 2019 1:50 PM # 
bchubb:
Confirmed dates for Western Canadians are July 3 - 5

WCOC sprint - Friday afternoon, July 3.
" middle - Saturday July 4
" long - Sunday July 5
Oct 3, 2019 10:07 PM # 
marshaf:
Yes Bryan is right. The WCOCs are July 3- 5 and the COCs are the 10-12 of July. WCOC just had their event committee meeting and confirmed these dates.
Oct 4, 2019 4:43 AM # 
mbo:
One of the major factors in deciding the dates for COCs and then WCOCs, was the high risk of forest fire/smoke in August in the Kootenays. No fires this year but if the event had been in August in the previous few years, it likely would have been canceled. A lot of discussions went into the decision but ultimately decided on keeping to the July dates, being fully aware of the conflict with WOC.
Oct 4, 2019 6:19 AM # 
Hammer:
Well as a fire scientist myself i am pleased that this is being considered because I personally found the 2003 canadian Champs to be risky (ie running on private land while there was closed public access to all crown land in interior BC because of raging fires). For others that don’t know the record for most area burned in BC on record was broken in 2017 and then broke that record again in 2018 with over 1.3 Mha burned.

Given the trends racing in beautiful BC in the spring or fall may be necessary for future Canadian Champs to reduce risk of a wildfire ban and/or smoke exposure.

Difficult decision for sure.
Oct 16, 2019 2:38 PM # 
Nick:
so dates are : friday to sunday ? sprint, middle, long ? anyone have any updates ?
Oct 16, 2019 7:56 PM # 
gordhun:
They just put something on Facebook. Check there.
Oct 16, 2019 10:41 PM # 
dbakker:
Here is that Facebook post that Gord is referring to:

https://www.facebook.com/canadianorienteeringchamp...

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