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Discussion: Classic skis?

in: Guisborough1; Guisborough1 > 2020-01-02

Jan 3, 2020 11:04 PM # 
igoup:
Do you have them? That would give you a lot of flexibility. The newer "skins" skis are supposed to be really versatile and you don't have to worry about yucky kick wax.
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Jan 4, 2020 12:03 AM # 
Guisborough1:
No. That's all I'd done until two years ago. Then I switched. I had to make a decision when I bought a pair and thought I'd try skate. I need a new pair of alpine skis before I invest in some classic skis. But you may have just planted a seed. Maybe I buy some classics in town at the end of the season. Never heard of these "skin" skis. Is it the same technology as backcountry/ski mountaineering skis? I remember when Trak started selling the fish scale bottoms in the late 70's early 80's.....don't think it was all that.
Good idea though. I'll start researching. With all these Norwegian wax techs getting cancer, I'm not keen on doing my own. My neighbour's a snowboard guru and waxes in our cellar.....I'm avoiding that. Thanks Tom.
Jan 4, 2020 1:34 AM # 
igoup:
re: skins. Same idea as the mountaineering skis, however, very light weight and even raceable (https://www.fischersports.com/us_en/speedmax-3d-tw...). They require a little more care than fish scales but with better grip and a whole lot less hassle than kick wax. All the big brands have their version.

re: cancer. I believe the issue there is not kick wax but the glide wax, in particular, the fliuoro waxes. Do you have a reference or news item that discusses the issue with the Norwegian tech's health?
Jan 4, 2020 3:32 AM # 
Guisborough1:
I think it was on British Nordic. I'll search. It was back in late October I read it. Cheers for all the info. I tried some of the things you'd talked about and what was on Greg Alswedes blog today (specifically Jagge's Finnish videos). When you no pole to practice do you physically leave your poles? That would be a big step for me. I can no pole for maybe 45secs then it'd be carnage without poles in hand. I also think my whole body shape would change without poles in hand.
Jan 6, 2020 2:05 AM # 
igoup:
I do stuff in the parking lot without carrying the poles. When I head out on the trail I carry them with me because I alternate between different strides and to help on wood bridges or when the pavement is rough. The guy I skied with today just leaves the poles at home. He has good balance and good technique whereas I'm lacking at both. Definitely takes practice but, in my opinion, is ultimately the secret to going fast.
Jan 6, 2020 3:56 PM # 
Guisborough1:
Ok, needed to know that. I'll give it a go. I watched that last Tour race yesterday. That climb oooooph! I watched the same race last year I think. The speed is incredible.
Thanks for the info.

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